Steve Berry on C4's Top Ten TV Cops Posted Sat Sep 29 22:53:49 BST 2001 by Joe4SOTCAA

Channel 4 did used to be better...


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Posted By 'Phil A' on Sat Sep 29 23:02:26 BST 2001:

I confess I shouted "Cheerio!" at the screen when he came on. I am not ashamed.


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Posted By Steve Berry on Sun Sep 30 01:24:21 BST 2001:

It was a secret camera. I didn't know I was being filmed. Honest!


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Posted By Steve Berry on Sun Sep 30 01:26:43 BST 2001:

Actually, this might sound a bit disingenuous, but I didn't see the show and would be interested to hear what exactly it was I was "used" for.

T'ra


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Posted By Mogwai on Sun Sep 30 01:40:59 BST 2001:

> I didn't see the show and would be interested to hear what exactly it was I was "used" for.

Were you really justifying kiddie porn, or was that just a bit of "judicious" editing?


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Posted By Joe4SOTCAA on Sun Sep 30 02:34:28 BST 2001:

It was during the Sweeney I think. They should have gotten Jake Thingy in.

I didn't tape it, but - from memory - I think you were saying something along the lines of "Nyahh-na-naa, na-naa-naaa-nah, Diddly doo, diddly doo, blahdi-blahdi-nothing, nothing, nothing, dead air, dead air...blah blah blah bollocks"

I imagine the edit tightened up a lot of what you originally said, mind.


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Posted By 'jules serendipidy' on Sun Sep 30 10:56:57 BST 2001:

How did they work out the positions? Was any ordinary person allowed to vote?

Amazed to see "Bergerac" at number 4. Although I always secretly liked it, it was looked on by persons who know as incredibly naff. Apparently at the BBC meeting, chaired by Yentob, that finally killed it off, mass cheering broke out when the decision was taken. These revolutionary Young Turks have since gone on to give us such gems of popular, accessible BBC drama as, er...


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Sun Sep 30 11:27:59 BST 2001:

Couldn't quite work out how Beregerac got in above Hill Street Blues, or NYPD Blue, or even Morse, for god's sake...

The definitions and selections for these programmes are getting more and more erratic. Where does a "detective" end and a "policeman" begin for the purposes of last night's show? Columbo counts, but Morse doesn't, apparently. Er...


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sun Sep 30 12:11:22 BST 2001:

Congrats getting on the telly.


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Posted By Jake Thingy on Sun Sep 30 23:14:10 BST 2001:

>It was during the Sweeney I think. They should have gotten Jake Thingy in.
>
THANK YOU! You're so right. I deliberately didn't watch that bit, as I was sure I'd find it painful. Their bit on Columbo, my other great favourite certainly was, they finished that by showing Billy Connolly in the last one - I've been telling people he was guest murderer in that for two years now. And they had to show William Shatner in it, for kitsch purposes, they wouldn't have included clips of the ones with Patrick McGoohan, Donald Pleasence, Faye Dunaway, Nicol Williamson, John Cassavetes, Honor Blackman, Oskar Werner or anyone like that, or mentioned Spielberg and Jonathan Demme directing episodes, would they? Sneering cretins.


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Posted By velvet on Mon Oct 1 13:50:37 BST 2001:

begerac was great, i quite enjoy the music (from the earlier series) it was kind of an accordian reggae thing.

obviously Diagnosis Murder should have been number one.....


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Posted By Bent Halo on Mon Oct 1 14:00:03 BST 2001:

Bergerac over Shoestring - a show that knew when to stop? Bloody hell.


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Posted By You Have No New Messages In Your Mailbox on Mon Oct 1 14:26:20 BST 2001:


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>obviously Diagnosis Murder should have been number one.....


DvD is playing his own double today, a gangland mafioso bossman! Diagnosis Murder should've been in 'Top Ten Comedy' or 'I Love Nepotism'. The fact that it has been running for 8 years is nothing short of miraculous.


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Mon Oct 1 15:41:15 BST 2001:

>Bergerac over Shoestring - a show that knew when to stop? Bloody hell.

Eddie Shoestring wasn't a cop, though, was he?


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Posted By Bent Halo on Mon Oct 1 16:00:52 BST 2001:

Private detective.

Bergerac was designed as a replacement for Shoestring from some of the same, and was vastly inferior. Sorry, I always dredge this one up whenever Bergerac is mentioned.


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Posted By Bent Halo on Mon Oct 1 16:01:29 BST 2001:

Missing word: "some of the same [team]".


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Posted By Steve Berry on Mon Oct 1 17:54:16 BST 2001:

>It was during the Sweeney I think. They should have gotten Jake Thingy in.

Actually, it was Juliet Bravo. I asked a question about the Alexei Sayle show pisstake on this very forum not long ago and TJ was kind enough to fill in the gaps in my memory. Of course, they didn't USE that bit!

If anyone particularly wants to hear my "being a talking head" anecdote, you can subscribe to the TV Cream Update via the site itself. It's not very interesting, though, and a bit like a story about fixing someone's plumbing for them.

Cheerio

Steve


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Posted By 'hemidemisemiderm' on Mon Oct 1 18:04:42 BST 2001:

never mind eddie shoestring, where was chief wiggum?

tchoh.


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Posted By Andrew Collins on Mon Oct 1 18:25:57 BST 2001:

Never mind all of this. Did you spot when David Soul said "I loved the 70s . . ." in a link. The first metatextual, nostalgia-telly cross-channel cross-pollination, if I'm not mistaken.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Mon Oct 1 22:58:32 BST 2001:

Although he may have just meant the decade, not the programme about the decade. Especially seeing as the programmes were called "I love 1971, 1972..." etc. There was no actual programme called "I Loved The 70s."


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Posted By 'Nik' on Mon Oct 1 23:04:02 BST 2001:

>Although he may have just meant the decade, not the programme about the decade. Especially seeing as the programmes were called "I love 1971, 1972..." etc. There was no actual programme called "I Loved The 70s."

Ah but he was only speaking lines written for him, so he didn't actually mean anything. What did the person who wrote the line mean, Mr Collins?


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Mon Oct 1 23:20:40 BST 2001:

>Ah but he was only speaking lines written for him, so he didn't actually mean anything.

And the person who wrote the lines was only writing them because they're part of a machine that churns out cheap television, so they didn't mean any of it either. So what does any of it mean?


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Posted By 'Nik' on Tue Oct 2 00:00:03 BST 2001:

>And the person who wrote the lines was only writing them because they're part of a machine that churns out cheap television, so they didn't mean any of it either. So what does any of it mean?

Perhaps the person that wrote that line was subverting the format by making Mr Soul say a phrase that is almost the name of a series on BBC 2. A human cog in the inhuman machine of cheap television, if you will.

Of course it is ultimately meaningless and futile, but it's only a laugh, no 'arm done!


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Tue Oct 2 09:27:32 BST 2001:

>Perhaps the person that wrote that line was subverting the format by making Mr Soul say a phrase that is almost the name of a series on BBC 2. A human cog in the inhuman machine of cheap television, if you will.

Yes, well, more of a tragic post-modern cyborg, if you don't mind, reduced to referencing one cheap television show from within another (and getting the name wrong) in order to wrestle a slither of semi-amusement from a mindless mechanical mess.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Tue Oct 2 09:28:24 BST 2001:

Nurse!


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Oct 2 09:43:59 BST 2001:

David Soul and Antonio Fargas both live in London. (Soul in St John's Wood, Fargas probably just on the streets, hustlin')

Thus they're cheap and cheery kitsch presenters, for whom you don't have to pay airfare.


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Posted By Jon on Tue Oct 2 12:03:35 BST 2001:

"Thus they're cheap and cheery kitsch presenters, for whom you don't have to pay airfare."

Do they only get work in this country?


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Oct 2 13:47:17 BST 2001:

Paul Michael Glaser covers for any out-of-blighty retro TV festivals on their behalf. If he's unavailable, Mike D dresses up as Nathan Wind and does the gig in aviators and a gaffer tape beard.


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Posted By velvet on Tue Oct 2 15:05:32 BST 2001:

both are my rent boys.


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Oct 2 17:18:32 BST 2001:

You can't pimp Huggy Bear. That's metapimping.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Tue Oct 2 21:38:35 BST 2001:

If a pimp can have a pimp, can a pimp be his own pimp?


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Posted By Mogwai on Tue Oct 2 22:28:12 BST 2001:

>If a pimp can have a pimp, can a pimp be his own pimp?

Ah, but who pimps the...?


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Tue Oct 2 23:26:08 BST 2001:

Yes? Go on...?


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Posted By Mogwai on Wed Oct 3 01:36:41 BST 2001:

... watchmen?

No, hang on...


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Posted By velvet on Wed Oct 3 15:26:10 BST 2001:

I pimp everyone.

My Name is Bill, oh yes.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Wed Oct 3 23:17:58 BST 2001:

It's important to pamper a pimp with a bit of pomp.


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