The ITC also said:

"The programme wasn't even really that funny. We were really disappointed. And why was Simon Pegg in it? Surely he's a cunt."



(Not really, American readers)

How does this affect the likelihood of a repeat screening? Could they do it if they stuck a REALLY SLOW AND OBVIOUS warning on beforehand?

Can anyone see it being repeated in the next ten years anyway?

>Can anyone see it being repeated in the next ten years anyway?
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Not really. I'll see you down Camden Market with the suitcase full o' dubs in ten mins.

The only reason for the level of the fuss - and thus the nature of the ITC's findings - is the fact that the programme followed Big Brother. If it hadn't, there wouldn't have been half as much bother.

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>Not really. I'll see you down Camden Market with the suitcase full o' dubs in ten mins.

Yay! A bonfire!

Hands up who wants it repeated.

Eh la.

I don't - except as an educative film on how not to do comedy. My fear is that it will attract Clockwork Orange-style noteriety and be shown at poncy 'Banned' seasons at the NFT in 2038.

>How does this affect the likelihood of a repeat screening? Could they do it if they stuck a REALLY SLOW AND OBVIOUS warning on beforehand?


The warning should be CHRIS MORRIS'S FUCKING CAREER!!!!!

What are they surprised that Chris Morris has produced something offensive, oh my god, I think the sky is beginning to cave in!

>I don't - except as an educative film on how not to do comedy. My fear is that it will attract Clockwork Orange-style noteriety and be shown at poncy 'Banned' seasons at the NFT in 2038.

2038? great
Thats when the us government release the "unseen" kennedy assasination files aswell.
Sounds like its gonna be quite a year.

When sotcaa rises again, will there be an in depth appraisal of bes?

>When sotcaa rises again, will there be an in depth appraisal of bes?

Do you mean 'bees'? I'd like to see extensive musing on the figure-of-eight dance and a discussion on the contribution of drones. Talking of which, I'd also like to see a debate on the relative merits of bagpipes and Uillean pipes, punctuated by outbursts from the bodhran-fanciers. I'd also like to see all the SOTCAA blokes in kilts.

After repeated watchings, Hazeley and meself are beginning to believe that most of the faults of the BES could have been lessened had it actually been given "special" status and run for 45 mins (or an hour / 53 mins with ads).

The main problems with breathless pacing and leaving jokes unexplored (kids shepherded into stadiums... and... er... is that it?) could have been alleviated had the show been allowed to run longer. Also the idea that it was a live special, not a standard Brass Eye (hence different, wobbly presenters) would have been made clearer, avoiding comparisons with the format of previous editions.

And a lot of the missing material that was filmed but dropped could have been woven back in, and who's to say that a couple of those bits might not have been of decent enough quality to tip the balance? (This is tenuous, but possible.)

(This of course depends on you not actually thinking the special as it stands should be burnt and buried. I hold that it has a fair few great moments, but the format feels wrong.)

It still wouldn't have been perfect, but it might have been an improvement on the confusing, rushed, underdeveloped string of ideas that ended up on TV.

And more worth making a fuss about.

(Totally agree with the point about Clockwork Orange, to which you can add Natural Born Killers *shiver*.)

Oh goddamn it. Just before SOTCAA goes down, I start the ludicrous Brass Eye Special Was Shit No It Wasn't debate up again...

Just realised what I've done.

I, like the ITC, shall offer an official apology.

"Terribly sorry. Please ignore previous post"

After all the fuss and the tabloids' harrumphing about how no-one involved should ever be allowed to work in television ever again, that C4 just have to give an apology for not warning viewers sufficiently seems like a victory.

The Department of Culture has called on broadcasters to "pay heed" to the regulator's Brass Eye ruling.

"Brass Eye caused widespread concern and we welcome the full consideration of the issues by the independent television commission and broadcasting standards commission," said a DCMS spokeswoman.

"No doubt broadcasters will pay heed to their decision and its implications," she added.


Did they actually read the ruling? Implications? Apologise and give a stronger warning next time! Hardly going to have film makers pondering their careers is it? But that'll teach 'em.

>most of the faults of the BES could have been lessened had it actually been given "special" status and run for 45 mins (or an hour / 53 mins with ads).


I said this at the time. I did, I did, I did.

And some more erudite points as well.

>(Totally agree with the point about Clockwork Orange, to which you can add Natural Born Killers *shiver*.)

Clockwork Orange was actually good, though. Its reputation wasn't particularly enhanced by its ban because most of the reviews on its reissue claimed it was 'dated', etc.