The Unforgettable Tommy Cooper Posted Mon Sep 3 14:45:30 BST 2001 by Unruly Butler

Right, I'm keeping that on video.

ITV surprises you sometimes. No cheap clip compilation with talking heads saying it was "all down to timing" and "there won't be another", just an absorbing, Omnibus-style doc.

And they handled his death on stage with admirable tact. They had the footage, but didn't show it, just allowing Jimmy Tarbuck to talk us through it (he was the compere that night).

Quite moving.

While BBC1 has less and less worth tuning in for, its putative populist comptetitor occasionally turns up with the goods.

Looking forward to John Le Mesurier next week.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Mon Sep 3 17:49:28 BST 2001:

I remember seeing him collapse on stage, it was on TV, everyone laughed, then they droppped the curtain, went to an ad break, and got on with the next act.

It was pretty bizarre I was only about 9/10, and I thought "And he's called a genius for this?"


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Posted By Steve Berry on Mon Sep 3 18:07:19 BST 2001:

>Right, I'm keeping that on video.

It's a repeat, isn't it? Last time it was buried in a late night weekday slot. There's a great one on Richard Beckinsale.

>And they handled his death on stage with admirable tact. They had the footage, but didn't show it, just allowing Jimmy Tarbuck to talk us through it (he was the compere that night).

I don't think they're allowed to show the footage, as it goes.

However, I agree. Great stuff (and surprisingly so) from ITV.

Cheerio


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Sep 4 09:48:07 BST 2001:

Are these repeats? Ah! That means I'll be able to get the Hattie Jacques one that people kept going on about. Smart.


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Posted By TJ on Tue Sep 4 10:04:30 BST 2001:

The footage might well have been shown somewhere since, as those scumbastard fuckwits at Cult TV magazine included screengrabs of it in their "100 Greatest TV Moments Of All Time" list, sniggering behind their hands clip show-style about how funny and 'essential' it was as a piece of television.


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Sep 4 11:39:53 BST 2001:

That must be where I'd heard about it being used. I was biting my nails in anticipation, in case the ITV show cheapened itself in the same way.

That's why I thought it was worth appluading. They didn't feel the need to stoop that low.


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Posted By 'JK Bath' on Tue Sep 4 13:17:04 BST 2001:

>The footage might well have been shown somewhere since, as those scumbastard fuckwits at Cult TV magazine

Future Publishing, wasn't it? Manufacturers of overpriced, cardboard-covered, illiterate coffee table drivel for six quid a throw. Unsurprisingly their vision of a glossy, expensive monthly magazine devoted entirely to Thunderbirds and the Avengers died on its arse. It's only a wonder the rest of their stuff remains on the shelves.


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Sep 4 15:43:13 BST 2001:

They make enough money from their successful publications to take a punt on any format suggested by their employees.

They will do an experimental run of six or so issues of anything, to see how it goes, then cut their losses and run.

That's why they rise and fall so quickly.


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Posted By mongrel on Tue Sep 4 16:31:56 BST 2001:

I have a video about Tommy Cooper, its quite funny

i think its called "just like that" or something equally obvious, but ive not watched it for about a hundred years. i dont even know where itis,


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Posted By 'Squidy' on Tue Sep 4 17:11:49 BST 2001:

That video's quite good. It has Adrian Edmonson playing with a box of TC's props he bought at auction, including a broken keyboard, a small sponge ball and a cloth penis.

There's also a clip of that man who hits himself on the head with a tea-tray while singing Mule Train.


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Posted By 'Jake Thingy' on Tue Sep 4 20:23:26 BST 2001:

I was in a pre-internet tape swapping thing called STARS (Savers of Television And Radio Shows) in the early 90's, and some bloke really did include Tommy's doomed Palladium turn on his list of stuff. I was too embarrassed to ask to see it, the other members probably weren't.


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Posted By 'Arthur Mullard's council house' on Wed Sep 5 18:47:05 BST 2001:

>I was in a pre-internet tape swapping thing called STARS (Savers of Television And Radio Shows) in the early 90's, and some bloke really did include Tommy's doomed Palladium turn on his list of stuff. I was too embarrassed to ask to see it, the other members probably weren't.

So you want to watch it then?


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Wed Sep 5 18:58:42 BST 2001:

>>I was in a pre-internet tape swapping thing called STARS (Savers of Television And Radio Shows) in the early 90's, and some bloke really did include Tommy's doomed Palladium turn on his list of stuff. I was too embarrassed to ask to see it, the other members probably weren't.
>
>So you want to watch it then?
>

This is it (from what I remember), Cooper walks out, doesn't actually DO anything, does the hands thing, grabs chest, falls back, the curtain goes down, ad break


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