Germany 1 England 5 Posted Sat Sep 1 23:06:28 BST 2001 by 'Teenwolf'

Now _that's_ funny!


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Posted By 'Ken G' on Sat Sep 1 23:12:36 BST 2001:

Can we stop seeing that fucking clip of the 66 world cup now please?


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Posted By Radiator Head Child on Sat Sep 1 23:29:05 BST 2001:

Has anyone else been running around shouting? I jolly well hope so. :)


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Posted By 'Jake Thingy' on Sun Sep 2 00:28:06 BST 2001:

Not me.


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Posted By 'Rob Jones' on Sun Sep 2 01:19:31 BST 2001:

They'll stop showing the '66 clips when England actually win a competition, as opposed to a match which makes their World Cup qualification, say, 90% certain rather than 70%, but matters little in the long run.


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Posted By Radiator Head Child on Sun Sep 2 01:25:31 BST 2001:

Oh come on! It's good to watch nice skilled sport regardless of it's importance, which in the scheme of things is nil.


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Posted By mongrel on Sun Sep 2 02:00:23 BST 2001:

let's all go bomb dresden again to celebrate
i really dont like football, at all


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Posted By 'Clever Clogger' on Sun Sep 2 06:17:53 BST 2001:

>let's all go bomb dresden again to celebrate
>i really dont like football, at all

Fooking Man Ciddy Fan THen?


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Posted By 'Brian Cant' on Sun Sep 2 20:28:31 BST 2001:

It was a great result, it really was . My voice is still a little hoarse but one thing that is already beginning to annoy me is the pun frenzy the red tops are just dipping thier toes into.

"Nobody mention the score." well at least they didn't add to the hilarity by writing zee instead of the but it's going to happen. I could add more but I fancy a wank.


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Sun Sep 2 21:38:14 BST 2001:

>let's all go bomb dresden again to celebrate
>i really dont like football, at all

So why did you read this thread?
Actually, don't bother answering, I'm not interested.


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Sun Sep 2 21:39:03 BST 2001:

>They'll stop showing the '66 clips when England actually win a competition, as opposed to a match which makes their World Cup qualification, say, 90% certain rather than 70%, but matters little in the long run.

Do you work for The Express? Cheer up!


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Sun Sep 2 21:39:56 BST 2001:

>Oh come on! It's good to watch nice skilled sport regardless of it's importance, which in the scheme of things is nil.

You tell 'em girl!


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Posted By 'Rob Jones' on Mon Sep 3 01:13:53 BST 2001:

>Do you work for The Express? Cheer up!

Nope, I'm an Independent man! And I had to listen to the game on the radio.


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Posted By 'Norman Five-one' on Mon Sep 3 10:30:28 BST 2001:

Listening to John Motson "commentating" made me realise why Scottish football fans hate him, Barry Davies, and that ilk so much. Not the players or the fans, but the fecking TV talking bullshit heads. Thank fcuk Jimmy Hill has been pensioned off. the sight of an elderly man masturbating over a stuido monitor would have been just too much.

i can understand getting excited about your team doing well, but two words John: Alan Partridge. i'm sure at one point he said "Look at that!"

Yesterday's smugathon with that chubby wee guy Ray Somebody on Afternoon Grandstand was more than I could stomach. Hazel Irvine, and Patrick Barclay are Scots! Mark Lawrenson played for the Republic of Ireland let us not forget!

Aaaaaargh!


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Posted By 'Bob Honey' on Mon Sep 3 13:56:26 BST 2001:

I really liked the bit when Motson embarked on a story about how he had just lent Trevor Brooking one of his spare pieces of perspex to keep the rain off his notes.


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Posted By 'Mike' on Mon Sep 3 16:47:01 BST 2001:

"This has to be England's greatest victory over Germany since the war."
John Motson actually said that.


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Posted By 'Girl Who Turned Down Richard Herring' on Mon Sep 3 17:06:59 BST 2001:


>"Nobody mention the score." well at least they didn't add to the hilarity by writing zee instead of the but it's going to happen. I could add more but I fancy a wank.

Well,dont expect me to watch.


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Posted By Radiator Head Child on Mon Sep 3 20:27:52 BST 2001:

My favourite Motson comment was:
"There's so much to talk about. *pause* "


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Posted By 'pissed off paddy' on Tue Sep 4 14:23:32 BST 2001:

Typical fucking English, you beat a *very poor* German side and go ballistic. Don't misunderstand me, it was a great result, and I was delighted as anybody, but I'm really fucking sick of hearing about it. In case you didn't know (and I'm sure you won't have heard it in the press), the Republic of Ireland had a much more impressive victory on the same day, putting one '98 World Cup semi-finalist out of the competition (Holland), and extending our lead at the top of the group.

In which we are unbeaten . Unlike England.

Which contain's not one but TWO world cup semi-finalists (the other being Portugal). Neither of whom managed to beat us. Germany, incidentally, were knocked out in the first stage of the '98 World Cup. Because they're not very good. (See also Germany almost losing to Estonia and Finland in this qualification campaign).

What's more, the Irish achieved their win with 10 men, against one of the most expensive sides in the world, who spent the final 30 minutes playing with 5 strikers on the pitch. Our goal was scored with 10 men, anbd what's more it was scored by Jason MacAteer, who can't even get into the Blackburn team. Very few of the Irish squad are guaranteed first team football at their clubs, and yet we just knocked one of the best teams on the planet out of the World Cup.

The very same team who tore England to pieces a mere fortnight ago.

But you won't readf anything about that in the papers, because you're all so busy congratulating yourselves over a victory over an average team, (c.f. Estonia, Finland), because you're STILL obsessed with a war that happened before any of you were even fucking born.

Still, congratulations, and let's hope we'll meet in the World Cup, because if you think England's record against Germany is bad, you should see when the last time you beat Ireland was.


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Tue Sep 4 16:56:18 BST 2001:

Do you know what country we're in? I'll tell you, it's England. People in England are talking about a great England result, and you're offended.
People in Ireland (and wherever else the micks have spread their seeds in recent times) are probably on about your great result, but it doesn't bother me.
Maybe your so happy about the Republic result because deep inside you haven't forgotten about King Billy?
Remember who King Billy was? Remember if you can, Sir.
Sincerely
R. Mac Con Uladh (one of your lot)


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Posted By 'Brian Cant' on Tue Sep 4 18:30:39 BST 2001:

>Typical fucking English, you beat a *very poor* German side and go ballistic. Don't misunderstand me, it was a great result, and I was delighted as anybody, but I'm really fucking sick of hearing about it. In case you didn't know (and I'm sure you won't have heard it in the press), the Republic of Ireland had a much more impressive victory on the same day, putting one '98 World Cup semi-finalist out of the competition (Holland), and extending our lead at the top of the group.
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>In which we are unbeaten . Unlike England.
>
>Which contain's not one but TWO world cup semi-finalists (the other being Portugal). Neither of whom managed to beat us. Germany, incidentally, were knocked out in the first stage of the '98 World Cup. Because they're not very good. (See also Germany almost losing to Estonia and Finland in this qualification campaign).
>
>What's more, the Irish achieved their win with 10 men, against one of the most expensive sides in the world, who spent the final 30 minutes playing with 5 strikers on the pitch. Our goal was scored with 10 men, anbd what's more it was scored by Jason MacAteer, who can't even get into the Blackburn team. Very few of the Irish squad are guaranteed first team football at their clubs, and yet we just knocked one of the best teams on the planet out of the World Cup.
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>The very same team who tore England to pieces a mere fortnight ago.
>
>But you won't readf anything about that in the papers, because you're all so busy congratulating yourselves over a victory over an average team, (c.f. Estonia, Finland), because you're STILL obsessed with a war that happened before any of you were even fucking born.
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>Still, congratulations, and let's hope we'll meet in the World Cup, because if you think England's record against Germany is bad, you should see when the last time you beat Ireland was.
>
Predictable and dire Celtic Whingeing. It is Oh so very boring.


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Posted By 'Ian the Smegmeister' on Tue Sep 4 18:46:58 BST 2001:


>Which contain's not one but TWO world cup semi-finalists (the other being Portugal).

The semi finalists from the 98 World Cup were France, Brazil, Croatia and Argentina.

Germany, incidentally, were knocked out in the first stage of the '98 World Cup.

No, they got to the quarter-finals, losing to Croatia.
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>who spent the final 30 minutes playing with 5 strikers on the pitch.

Four, actually

>what's more it was scored by Jason MacAteer, who can't even get into the Blackburn team.

He could get in the Blackburn, but he's had a falling out with Graham Souness.

>Very few of the Irish squad are guaranteed first team football at their clubs.

Yes, becuase their shit and thick.

>and yet we just knocked one of the best teams on the planet out of the World Cup.

That's debatable.

>The very same team who tore England to pieces a mere fortnight ago.

England's reserves.

> victory over an average team, (c.f. Estonia, Finland),

Estonia aren't even IN our qualifying group and the only team to beat Germany has been England. They drew with Finland.

>you should see when the last time you beat Ireland was.

It was the last time we played you, apart from the time when the match was abandonned cause we kicked you arses on the terraces.

Fuck off you bogtrotter. Haven't you got some school children to persecute?


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Tue Sep 4 18:56:52 BST 2001:

>Fuck off you bogtrotter. Haven't you got some school children to persecute?

I like your bait, it's juicy and intentionally ignorant.


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Posted By 'A four-year-old schoolgirl hit by a bottle' on Tue Sep 4 21:32:45 BST 2001:

> you're STILL obsessed with a war that happened before any of you were even fucking born.

Touché. Still, at least Ireland had a noble part to play in defending democracy during the war as well, eh? None of that devious Swiss-style pro-German "neutrality" going on over there. No sirree Bob.


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Posted By 'Rob Jones' on Tue Sep 4 23:37:19 BST 2001:

I'll skip the anti-Irish bigotry and point out that Holland still have a mathematical chance of making the world cup via the play-offs. So there's another inaccuracy in Mr Paddy's tirade.

BUT! Aside from the fact it was brimming with factual inaccuracy, he has a point: Ireland have a decent chance of topping a group featuring two sides who are, on paper, stronger than them. And they're unbeaten. Which is a fine achievement. Although if Portugal win their last two games, Eire will be cursed to a play-off. So there.


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Tue Sep 4 23:39:40 BST 2001:

I enjoyed the Mick's comments. They were beautifully phrased, if nothing else. That's how to do inflammatory invective.

Oh, and I don't care. 5-1.


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Tue Sep 4 23:45:59 BST 2001:

Leaving aside the fact that Ireland's team is full of Englishmen, and the recent premary school related problems are taking place in NORTHERN Ireland, I agree that they've done very well in a tough group.

Why don't we all unite and have a jolly good laugh at the Scots, Dutch and Norwegians, who are all in the process of making arses of themselves. Let's have some unity!


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Posted By Mogwai on Tue Sep 4 23:52:37 BST 2001:

Normally I couldn't give a tinker's tug about misprints, but just this once I'd like to applaud Teenwolf's incredibly apposite phrase "premary school". Thanks.


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Posted By 'Rob Jones' on Wed Sep 5 00:16:06 BST 2001:

>France, Brazil, Croatia and Argentina.

btw, this is wrong too: Holland knocked out Argentina in the quarter-finals, and lost on penalties to Brazil in the semis. Is this the most factually incorrect thread ever? Don't you all know the actual result was 6-1 on Saturday? gah!


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Posted By Mogwai on Wed Sep 5 00:17:31 BST 2001:

'Saturday'?! Pah!


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Wed Sep 5 09:32:21 BST 2001:

What's great is that in any other social context, basic errors about football facts would be rare as hen's teeth and jumped on immediately.

Here, where knowledge is more arcane and lighting cameraman credits are king, it takes days for anyone to spot basic foopballing errors.

So, I'd like to take this opportunity to pat Sir Matt Busby and his battling boys for bringing back the Milk Cup last Thursday. That's one in the eye for anyone who said we'd never score those last two baskets against those tricksy Polish horsemen.


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Posted By 'Stuart O' on Wed Sep 5 10:01:46 BST 2001:

You are Sally Jockstrap from Private Eye and I claim my five pounds.


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Posted By 'Cheered up Paddy' on Wed Sep 5 11:06:19 BST 2001:

Dearest Ian The Smegmeister. How I love your sensitive English humour. Let's examine it, shall we?


>Which contain's not one but TWO world cup semi-finalists (the other being Portugal).

The semi finalists from the 98 World Cup were France, Brazil, Croatia and Argentina.

*Our survey said - WRONG!"

Germany, incidentally, were knocked out in the first stage of the '98 World Cup.

No, they got to the quarter-finals, losing to Croatia.

*Therefore making them less successful than Holland and Portugal, yes? Anyway, I was getting confused with Euro 2000. Which means they're even more shit.*

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>who spent the final 30 minutes playing with 5 strikers on the pitch.

Four, actually

*Well, to be pedantic, it was more like 9, given how much time they spent in our half.*

>what's more it was scored by Jason MacAteer, who can't even get into the Blackburn team.

He could get in the Blackburn, but he's had a falling out with Graham Souness.

*Really? How interesting. So he can't get in the Blackburn teamn then?*

>Very few of the Irish squad are guaranteed first team football at their clubs.

Yes, becuase their shit and thick.

*I don't need to say anything here, do I? It's your fucking language mate*

>and yet we just knocked one of the best teams on the planet out of the World Cup.

That's debatable.

*But you're obviously not winning the debate, so well done for leaving that one there*

>The very same team who tore England to pieces a mere fortnight ago.

England's reserves.
*And Holland's reserves too, funnily enough. Holland were more afraid of committing their players two weeks before the Ireland game because a) their game was more important, and b) Ireland are *demonstrably* better than England at football.*

> victory over an average team, (c.f. Estonia, Finland),

Estonia aren't even IN our qualifying group and the only team to beat Germany has been England. They drew with Finland.

*My apoologies, I meant Albania. Germany only beat them thanks to a deflected 87th minutre goal, in Leverkusen. Which is much more impressive. They were 2-0 down to Finland at half-time in Helsinki.)

>you should see when the last time you beat Ireland was.

It was the last time we played you, apart from the time when the match was abandonned cause we kicked you arses on the terraces.

*I will direct you to Englandfanzine.co.uk, where you can check all England's international results. A hint - your last victory over Eire was in 1985. Gary Lineker scored. We've played you five time's since then - four draws, and one match abandoned...*

Fuck off you bogtrotter. Haven't you got some school children to persecute?

*Like the school child hit on the head by a piece of Landsdowne Road in 1995, when your supporters went on the rampage after going one-nil down? Or the schoolchildren hit on the head by British Unionists in a dispute taking place on British soil? You, sir, are an excellent example of British idiocy, and I'd like to thank you for making my points so effectively. Cunt.*


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Posted By mrdiscopop on Wed Sep 5 11:28:40 BST 2001:

>Do you know what country we're in? I'll tell you, it's England. People in England are talking about a great England result, and you're offended.


Excuse me, aren't we on the internet? You know, with none of those international boundaries? Where people can contribute from anywhere in the world, given the right hardware and software?

Just checking.


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Wed Sep 5 12:34:18 BST 2001:

>Excuse me, aren't we on the internet? You know, with none of those international boundaries?

I thought of that as I wrote it. But then I thought 'No, we are in England'.
That is to say, the people paddy directed the e-mail at are in England. The English press and English football fans who were celebrating the result in a manner he found distasteful are almost certainly in England. He probably is too. So I decided to leave it in.
I knew I'd be picked up on this, and I'm glad I was.


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Wed Sep 5 12:50:06 BST 2001:

>*Like the school child hit on the head by a piece of Landsdowne Road in 1995, when your supporters went on the rampage after going one-nil down? Or the schoolchildren hit on the head by British Unionists in a dispute taking place on British soil? You, sir, are an excellent example of British idiocy, and I'd like to thank you for making my points so effectively. Cunt.*

Yes, but surely that was an intentionally ignorant comment made in order to draw you in to a pointless argument.
I think it's a shame that you even bothered to comment on that bit. Although there probably are English people out there watching the news and thinking 'look at these Irish, attacking kids'. That's the trouble, many English people have no idea about the situation over there. They don't even know what religion they are meant to be themselves, so how would they know which Irish are actually British and what the reasons are for any dispute over there. I've heard things like "So, which one's are the Protestants? The IRA?". Your average English person couldn't care less about Ulster (the British bit) being British or Irish. I'd probably be the same if I wasn't the son of immigrants.


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Wed Sep 5 12:54:10 BST 2001:

Ulster (the British bit)

Meaning the British part of Ulster, rather than the whole of Ulster being the British bit of Ireland, which it's not.


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Posted By 'A distinctly illiberal Mogwai' on Wed Sep 5 13:20:02 BST 2001:

> Your average English person couldn't care less about Ulster (the British bit) being British or Irish

On the contrary - I think those thugs hurling bottles and (now) blast bombs at schoolchildren have forfeited their right to a British passport. As they're clearly a danger to children we should airlift their own children to safety in foster homes on the "mainland", brick up these barking loyalists in the ghetto they're trying so hard to create, then have our troops fuck off out of there sharpish and leave the bastards to burn in the ensuing sectarian apocalypse.

Just a thought.


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Posted By 'Norman Fourfourtwo' on Wed Sep 5 13:52:42 BST 2001:

Has anyone heard recently from those who said they didn't want a foreign coach in charge of England?

Or are their stupid gobs full of that lovely humble pie?

Come on Albania!


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Posted By '8Ace' on Wed Sep 5 14:42:57 BST 2001:

The president of the league of football managers, or some other fucked up organisation, no less, was dissing Sven yesterday. TWAT.


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Posted By 'Stuart O' on Wed Sep 5 14:55:56 BST 2001:

>Has anyone heard recently from those who said they didn't want a foreign coach in charge of England?
>
>Or are their stupid gobs full of that lovely humble pie?

From the Grauniad's football site:

QUOTE OF THE DAY: JEFF POWELL SPECIAL

"So, the mother country of football, birthplace of the greatest game, has finally gone from the cradle to the shame. We've sold our birthright down the fjord to a nation of seven million skiers and hammer throwers who spend half their lives in darkness." - Jeff Powell, Daily Mail, November 3 2000

"England are back. Back with such a vengeance that our bright young men and their courteous Swedish manager may indeed have changed the face of the game." - Jeff Powell, Daily Mail, September 3, 2001


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Posted By 'Loved up Paddy' on Wed Sep 5 14:59:30 BST 2001:

Yep, the League Manager's Association guy. Said it was still a disgrace how England was being managed by a foreigner, no matter how successful he is. What a wanker.

Dearest Lamby (and I do mean that - you seem like quite a nice bloke under all that spleen), I would have let the schoolkids thing slide if it weren't for the Smegmeister (hey, are you a Red Dwarf fan, Ian? Cool) mindbogglingly stupid juxtaposition of English football hooligans tearing Landsdowne Road to pieces (and damaging several small children in the process) and the business in Ardoyne. In fact, it was so stupid I forgot to comment on the "you may have been beating us on the pitch but we kicked your arses on the terraces" attitude that Ian was proudly displaying. What a complete and utter fucking cunt.


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Wed Sep 5 15:14:50 BST 2001:

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>Dearest Lamby (and I do mean that - you seem like quite a nice bloke under all that spleen

No, I'm the kind of bloke that would glass you in the neck for looking at him the wrong way. I'm part of the famous Wimbledon FC Death Squad. A real terrace terror.


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Posted By 'Ooh-ahh-Macataaaaaah' on Wed Sep 5 15:38:06 BST 2001:

Yeah, but we all know Wimbledon fans are merely victims of society. And John Hartson.


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Posted By 'Lamb of God' on Wed Sep 5 15:55:40 BST 2001:

Go to a wimbledon game and you'll see how funny my comment was. Our fans are mostly people from Surrey with learning disabilities. Our most well known fan (amongst the other fans) is a bloke known as 'Mr Bendy hands'. He has bendy hands.


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Posted By Radiator Head Child on Wed Sep 5 18:07:02 BST 2001:

Trust you guys to take a lovely sport and turn it into pedanticity.


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Wed Sep 5 23:36:32 BST 2001:

I declare this thread officially closed!


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Posted By 'bob' on Thu Sep 6 02:11:54 BST 2001:

i declare it reopened, as a theme pub!


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Posted By Unruly Butler on Thu Sep 6 10:56:01 BST 2001:

Ooh! Look! Horsebrasses!


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