vic reeves Posted Thu Aug 30 23:43:41 BST 2001 by 'bad boy bubba'

in the radio times it says not only are they making a new series of randall and hopkirk, the worst 'comedy-drama' ever shown on the bbc, they're also making a new series of shooting stars. oh thats just what i wanted, they've decided instead of making talking heads documentaries about the nineties, they're just going to resurrect everything they made during that decade.

'next week smith and jones reteam for a brand new series of their hilarious sketch based comedy'

'thought you'd seen the last ever series of rab c nesbitt, think again'


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Posted By 'Sexually Pleased' on Thu Aug 30 23:48:57 BST 2001:

>in the radio times it says not only are they making a new series of randall and hopkirk, the worst 'comedy-drama' ever shown on the bbc, they're also making a new series of shooting stars. oh thats just what i wanted, they've decided instead of making talking heads documentaries about the nineties, they're just going to resurrect everything they made during that decade.

Suits me down to the ground. Now all I have to do is get accepted on a Postgraduate course, and I can pretend that I just woke up with a hangover from a REALLY FUCKING NASTY dream, and it's still the mid 90s.


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Posted By Radiator Head Child on Thu Aug 30 23:52:05 BST 2001:

I'll make a stand here and stick up for Randall and Hopkirk Deceased. I enjoyed it, Goddammit. There were bits with special effects which got on my nerves, but it wasn't a dead end script. There were good performances, good storylines and it didn't mess with my already idolised memory of the original.

It wasn't trying to be anything other than that, and it seems that people were pissed off because it wasn't a remake of BNO.

Anyway, what do I know, I only watched the whole series.


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Posted By 'Anonymous' on Thu Aug 30 23:57:15 BST 2001:

and it didn't mess with my already idolised memory of the original.

i knew it, you're one of those middle-aged men who PRETEND to be teenage girls.


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Posted By 'Happy Funny Fella' on Fri Aug 31 00:00:38 BST 2001:

Is it that the tv powers that be wont commission reeves/mortimers more surreal stuff or are they just not botherd anymore.
Shooting stars only interesting bits were the fake promo and film tv clips they made.
Bang bang was hit and miss but contained real gems.
"now that i have gone,who will take my precious monkeys to be baptised?"
Randall and Hopkirk was just a nostalgia wank party badly acted.
Higsons status and influnce was well earned but badly exploited


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Posted By 'smiley face' on Fri Aug 31 00:04:51 BST 2001:

>Is it that the tv powers that be wont commission reeves/mortimers more surreal stuff or are they just not botherd anymore.
>Shooting stars only interesting bits were the fake promo and film tv clips they made.
>Bang bang was hit and miss but contained real gems.
>"now that i have gone,who will take my precious monkeys to be baptised?"
>Randall and Hopkirk was just a nostalgia wank party badly acted.
>Higsons status and influnce was well earned but badly exploited

at last someone i can agree with! it's been a while.


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Fri Aug 31 00:05:19 BST 2001:

I agree with RHC on this one; Vic&Bob's R&HD was an enjoyable slice of escapist fun, with enjoyable performances. A very pleasant way to spend 50 mins of an evening. And it had Tom Baker in it, and Gareth Thomas was in an episode!

And I'm still waiting for the 2nd series of Filthy Rich & Catflap, as promised by the BBC2 continuity announcer at the end of the 1st series in 1987. Any ideas when this is going to be on?


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Fri Aug 31 00:22:19 BST 2001:

>I agree with RHC on this one; Vic&Bob's R&HD was an enjoyable slice of escapist fun, with enjoyable performances. A very pleasant way to spend 50 mins of an evening. And it had Tom Baker in it, and Gareth Thomas was in an episode!
>

I think people get upset that Vic & Bob have become so popular, R&HD was just sat night fun, it was something they both loved, it was very well made. It would have been crap if fucking Les had been in it.

BTW I bought Big Night OUT on Tour, it took me 3 days to watch it, and I wanted to kill someone when the fucking wonderstuff came on.


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Posted By 'tim_e' on Fri Aug 31 00:24:46 BST 2001:

>BTW I bought Big Night OUT on Tour, it took me 3 days to watch it, and I wanted to kill someone when the fucking wonderstuff came on.

I went to see the fucking wonderstuff in Nottingham on sunday. They were fucking great.


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Posted By 'Anonymous' on Fri Aug 31 00:27:46 BST 2001:

>BTW I bought Big Night OUT on Tour, it took me 3 days to watch it

a long video is it?


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Fri Aug 31 00:32:57 BST 2001:

>>BTW I bought Big Night OUT on Tour, it took me 3 days to watch it
>
>a long video is it?
>
> No I kept on switching it off cos it wasn't very funny. And I used to piss myself over it when I was 14/15

And the Wonderstuff are shit, Mile Hunt is a moron (if you need proof watch his MTV "career").




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Posted By 'Happy Funny Fellas' on Fri Aug 31 00:34:51 BST 2001:


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>I think people get upset that Vic & Bob have become so popular, R&HD was just sat night fun, it was something they both loved, it was very well made. It would have been crap if fucking Les had been in it.
>
>BTW I bought Big Night OUT on Tour, it took me 3 days to watch it, and I wanted to kill someone when the fucking wonderstuff came on.
>
> Reeves and Mortimer are probably at their "least famous" right now.
If there ever was a time for huffy i dont like them anymore cos ther popular nonsense it would have been around the time of the first series of smell of


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Posted By 'In the know' on Fri Aug 31 15:52:07 BST 2001:

Oh ye of little faith. Never write off V&B.

The new series of Shooting Stars is a complete re-invention. Trust me. I'm working on it.


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Posted By mongrel on Fri Aug 31 17:22:10 BST 2001:

yeah, but i bet that randall and hopkirk fucking sucks, because VIC. CANT. ACT. SERIOUS.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Fri Aug 31 17:24:20 BST 2001:

>yeah, but i bet that randall and hopkirk fucking sucks, because VIC. CANT. ACT. SERIOUS.

I'm curious to see what Will Self is going to be like as a team captain, even if it's awful.


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Posted By '8Ace' on Fri Aug 31 17:32:19 BST 2001:

Will Self is a prick.


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Posted By 'Hiron' on Fri Aug 31 17:46:39 BST 2001:

No he isn't, actually.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Fri Aug 31 17:57:53 BST 2001:

>No he isn't, actually.

Ah the art of intellectual debate is not dead.

I like some of his books (usually the shorter ones or short stories), he was quite good on Radcliff's Graveyard show, tho' I'd like to know why he suddenly stopped doing it. The journalism I've read of his is pretty good, a lot of it very funny.

Then again I like Martin Amis, this probably makes me a twat.


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Posted By Martin on Fri Aug 31 18:04:27 BST 2001:

R&HD was a great idea on paper but horribly misconceived. Vic can indeed not act, and although he's mysteriously credible as a serious recording artist, in serious acting he just comes across as disinterested.

The show was the root of my still-fervent antipathy towards Charlie Higson. Don't get me started on Charlie Higson.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Fri Aug 31 18:15:45 BST 2001:

>R&HD was a great idea on paper but horribly misconceived. Vic can indeed not act, and although he's mysteriously credible as a serious recording artist, in serious acting he just comes across as disinterested.
>
>The show was the root of my still-fervent antipathy towards Charlie Higson. Don't get me started on Charlie Higson.

A lot of the later V&B stuff was "a good idea" take Families at War, the idea of everyday families doing inane tasks is funny, but a whole series of it?

As for CH, I think he's rather funny, I liked the Higsons record I had (before some cunt nicked it), and his books aren't bad (Ladybird Hammet for a modern slacker)


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Posted By '8Ace' on Sat Sep 1 00:37:25 BST 2001:

No, he is, actually.

Charlie Higson is cool. Can't believe you liked Self on Radcliffe Lizard, that's where my contempt for the bloke first manifested itself. Just cos he takes heroin while travelling with Prime Ministers and goes out of hs way to disagree with whatever the other person is saying doesn't make him cool. Fucking hell, I really hate Will Self.


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Posted By 'Nasturtium' on Sat Sep 1 01:05:38 BST 2001:

8Ace, are you male or female? I've no real reason for asking other than that I agree with almost everything you post and I'm curious about you! :0)


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Posted By 'Miasma' on Sat Sep 1 02:01:54 BST 2001:

Well, all I know is that the shoot for the second series bollocksed traffic around Elstree. My boss wasn't too happy with my protests about my bus being late as a result of dead detective interference.

>I'll make a stand here and stick up for Randall and Hopkirk Deceased. I enjoyed it, Goddammit. There were bits with special effects which got on my nerves, but it wasn't a dead end script. There were good performances, good storylines and it didn't mess with my already idolised memory of the original.
>
>It wasn't trying to be anything other than that, and it seems that people were pissed off because it wasn't a remake of BNO.
>
>Anyway, what do I know, I only watched the whole series.


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Posted By 'tim_e' on Sat Sep 1 08:50:31 BST 2001:

>Ah the art of intellectual debate is not dead.

How can it be when people produce well worked arguments such as "And the Wonderstuff are shit, Mile Hunt is a moron"?


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Posted By '(Not) Will Self (Obviously)' on Sat Sep 1 09:21:27 BST 2001:

>Oh ye of little faith. Never write off V&B.
>
>The new series of Shooting Stars is a complete re-invention. Trust me. I'm working on it.

Why? Does it suddenly turn into Big Night Out after twenty minutes?

A-ha-ha-ha.


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Posted By 'Ian the Smegmeister' on Sat Sep 1 11:43:54 BST 2001:

The new Shooting Stars will have Johnny Vegas instead of Mark Lamaar. I think this is a good thing.


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Posted By 'Brain Tree' on Sat Sep 1 13:52:06 BST 2001:

>The new Shooting Stars will have Johnny Vegas instead of Mark Lamaar. I think this is a good thing.<
Is Ulrika-ka-ka Johnson going to be there because I read Johnny Vegas isn't actually a team captain just a permanent panelist? Is George Dawes still there aswell or has Matt Lucas gone Rock Profile mad?


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Posted By 'Squidy' on Sat Sep 1 14:01:49 BST 2001:

Is it true that Mark Lamarr has left Never Mind The Buzzcocks?


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Posted By '8Ace' on Sat Sep 1 14:39:05 BST 2001:

I'm 6 ft of pouting male sexuality. I suspect you too are also a bloke, so let me set the record straight right now by saying that I don't go in for any of those filthy continental practices, no matter how curious I secretly am.


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Posted By 'Nasturtium' on Sat Sep 1 15:04:51 BST 2001:

>I'm 6 ft of pouting male sexuality. I suspect you too are also a bloke, so let me set the record straight right now by saying that I don't go in for any of those filthy continental practices, no matter how curious I secretly am.


'Nasturtium' would be a wonderul gay name, but I'm female, so it doesn't really work. Anyway, just how curious are you about those continental practices? Share with the group.

;0)


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Posted By '8Ace' on Sat Sep 1 15:18:14 BST 2001:

It's struck me that I was possibly being a bit presumptuous with that last post. Sorry 'bout that. I'm writing this before I read your reply by the way...


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Posted By 'Nasturtium' on Sat Sep 1 15:26:54 BST 2001:

>It's struck me that I was possibly being a bit presumptuous with that last post. Sorry 'bout that. I'm writing this before I read your reply by the way...


That's okay. The majority of people here seem to be male, so I generally assume they are unless they state otherwise.


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Posted By '8Ace' on Sat Sep 1 15:27:15 BST 2001:

I'll be back when I can think of a suitably witty/flirtatious/crude remark to regale you with. See ya later Schmoopy.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Sat Sep 1 21:50:52 BST 2001:

>>Ah the art of intellectual debate is not dead.
>
>How can it be when people produce well worked arguments such as "And the Wonderstuff are shit, Mile Hunt is a moron"?

You never did see Miles "interviewing" people on MTV did you? For a bloke whose had to put up with many interviews you'd think he'd do better, only he didn't...cos he's a moron.


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Posted By 'Billet-doux' on Sun Sep 2 06:15:00 BST 2001:

vic and bobs low points were shting strs and R and H.
Will Self reminds me of the Manic Street Preachers.Shit product but likeable as a person and in interviews(and very smart)
The wonderstuff were fucking shit.
Miles Hunt is a total.. well you know what im on about missus etc


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Posted By 'Ian the Smegmeister' on Sun Sep 2 13:44:44 BST 2001:

>Is it true that Mark Lamarr has left Never Mind The Buzzcocks?

Yes.


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Posted By 'Brain Tree' on Sun Sep 2 19:20:57 BST 2001:

who they getting for the new series then? I heard from a friend who went to the rehersals that Lamarr was there with Hughes. NMTB is scripted as well. Is there any quiz/panelist shows that aren't?


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Sun Sep 2 22:58:41 BST 2001:

Talking of George Dawes, what happened to the radio series Lucas & Walliams were supposed to be working on?


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Posted By 'Jake Thingy' on Mon Sep 3 01:04:34 BST 2001:

>Is there any quiz/panelist shows that aren't?

None - from Jokers Wild and Call My Bluff onwards.


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Posted By 'tim_e' on Mon Sep 3 09:44:02 BST 2001:

>>>Ah the art of intellectual debate is not dead.
>>
>>How can it be when people produce well worked arguments such as "And the Wonderstuff are shit, Mile Hunt is a moron"?
>
>You never did see Miles "interviewing" people on MTV did you?

No, I didn't. That doesn't make your comment above a well worked, detailed argument does it?

I have seen him play live however, and I'm pretty sure that he's not a moron, but a very funny bloke.


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Posted By 'Norman Fucking Great' on Mon Sep 3 14:10:37 BST 2001:

thought i better chip in with the my own well thought out and reasoned arguments.

The Wonderstuff are not fucking shit. You're thinking of Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

Vic and Bob are fucking great.

Will Self is fucking great.

(off topic) Magnolia is fucking shit.

(off topic) The Coen Brothers are fucking great.



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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Mon Sep 3 17:43:40 BST 2001:


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>I have seen him play live however, and I'm pretty sure that he's not a moron, but a very funny bloke.

Very funny? Wasn't that funny when he acted like a teenage twat on the Radcliff show because no one gave a fuck about Vent 4143647, oh who gives a shit.


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Posted By 'tim_e' on Mon Sep 3 18:18:15 BST 2001:

>
>>
>>I have seen him play live however, and I'm pretty sure that he's not a moron, but a very funny bloke.
>
>Very funny? Wasn't that funny when he acted like a teenage twat on the Radcliff show because no one gave a fuck about Vent 4143647, oh who gives a shit.

Well, I didn't think Richard Herring was very funny on TGP, but I think he's a very funny person. Nobody has a 100% record, but I can only imagine he killed your Gran when you take such offence at his appearance on a Vic Reeves video.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Mon Sep 3 19:09:25 BST 2001:

No just being very awful at his chosen trade.
Put it like this, the only song I like them is Size of a Cow (maybe Cheapo Seats).

Herring didn't act like some spoilt brat like Hunt did.


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Posted By 'Norman F' on Mon Sep 3 19:22:52 BST 2001:

The Wonderstuff were a great band until you saw the length of their trousers.

The eight legged groove machine album is fantastic. Circlesquare is great. Can't shape up is excellent. Their last album was dross. Size of a cow is pure pish. It is the Shiny Happy People of their back catalogue.

But yeah, they were magic.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Mon Sep 3 19:30:08 BST 2001:


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>But yeah, they were magic.
>
>

Must be me then, I'll try to get over it.
But seriously every time I saw/heard Hunt he appeared to be a complete twat. And he got a job on MTV, that I can never forgive.


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Posted By 'Lizard Scum' on Mon Sep 3 19:32:31 BST 2001:

BTW I also think that the Happy Mondays were complete shit as well, except for the tune THEY DIDN@T FUCKING WRITE! Sorry just venting at the sodding kids.

In defence of the 'Stuff they were better at backing Vic than EMF, ahem.


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Posted By 'FACTS' on Tue Sep 4 12:49:17 BST 2001:

In response to your question, the radio show that Lucas and Walliams 'were supposed to be working on' was Little Britain, a four-part sketch series which aired earlier year (preceded by a repeat of the original pilot). The series has been recommissioned by R4, and is also being adapted for television.


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Posted By mongrel on Tue Sep 4 16:46:54 BST 2001:

the only thing that made me smirk even slightly on comic relief was lucas and walliams doing their lee and H thing. and prince. 50 LIRA! heh. funn eee


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Posted By 'Teenwolf' on Tue Sep 4 23:48:56 BST 2001:

>In response to your question, the radio show that Lucas and Walliams 'were supposed to be working on' was Little Britain, a four-part sketch series which aired earlier year (preceded by a repeat of the original pilot). The series has been recommissioned by R4, and is also being adapted for television.

Oops! Missed it! Cheers Mr FACTS. Does your name stand for Football Association Coaching Tactics and Skills?


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