Paul Morley, George Carey and (I think) Alison Pearson.

Isn't it slightly for them to review something that has already been on, I mean I know it gets repeated tonight, but it seems odd for them to bother.

>Paul Morley, George Carey and (I think) Alison Pearson.

Morley? Bloody marvellous, he should be on every week. Radio Times lists guests as John Carey and Elaine Showalter.

>>Paul Morley, George Carey and (I think) Alison Pearson.
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>Morley? Bloody marvellous, he should be on every week. Radio Times lists guests as John Carey and Elaine Showalter.
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I'm half asleep. George? John? I was busy reading the Tour De France stuff on ceefax.

But Morley, I was pleased with that as well.

missed most of it because helen was being interviewed, but morley liked it and john carey didn't.

>missed most of it because helen was being interviewed, but morley liked it and john carey didn't.

Is that John Carey as in author of 'The Intellectuals and the Masses'?

They didn't really analyse whether it was funny, just whether or not it was suitable for comedy. Mind you, can't really get too heavy in a ten minute discussion.

If you missed it, Showalter liked it apart from the celeb spoofs which she thought were largely "low targets" and "cheap shots". Carey found it disgusting and devoid of a point of view. Morley enjoyed it and said he found things like Celebrity Sleepover and Crimewatch more offensive. I agree with none of them, as most people on here know all too well, but if anyone should be given a well-paid job as a TV critic, it should be Paul Morley.

>missed most of it because helen was being interviewed, but morley liked it and john carey didn't.

Showalter thought it hilarious apart from the celebs as she thought they were soft targets. Tend to agree!

If anyone's terribly bothered about it, I'll post up a transcript in the morning.

>>missed most of it because helen was being interviewed, but morley liked it and john carey didn't.
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>Is that John Carey as in author of 'The Intellectuals and the Masses'?

'unno

My ideal review team would have been Germaine Greer, Archbishop Cormac Murphy-O'Connor and Melinda Messenger. Niiice.

>If anyone's terribly bothered about it, I'll post up a transcript in the morning.

Please do, I was shitting at the time.

Incidentally that John Carey book is highly enjoyable and makes you wonder what he'd think about the introductory page of this site.

oh to hear Germaine Greer's opinion.

Good that they found the Simon Pegg scene the most offensive, but for the wrong reasons. They didn't notice that the Morris' last "Yes, you did" was blatantly dubbed on.

>Incidentally that John Carey book is highly enjoyable and makes you wonder what he'd think about the introductory page of this site.

What's the gist of that, then?

> oh to hear Germaine Greer's opinion.

I may have misheard her, but after slating Attention Scum on NR she said she wanted more 'Pearl Jam' from Chris Morris instead.

She'd have trouble understanding BES as a feminist issues. But she would have a pop, I'm sure....

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> oh to hear Germaine Greer's opinion.
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> Good that they found the Simon Pegg scene the most offensive, but for the wrong reasons. They didn't notice that the Morris' last "Yes, you did" was blatantly dubbed on.

and the whole scene was blue screen as far as i could tell, but perhaps the whole show was and i didn't notice.

edit news soon please sotcaa

Greer did indeed say Pearl Jam. One of the comedy highlights of the year. Incidentally, Morley's comment about Phil Collins' involvement being unlikely to deter a paedophile watching was far funnier than anything on Brass Eye itself. Give this man a show again. About anything at all. (Morley, not Collins. Obviously.)

Yeah.....ooh, better not.....Buster says so...

It's about how elitist critics of popular culture are typically self-styled serious artists who feel swamped by the scale of mainstream culture, and who spend half the time fantasising about doing away with most of humanity, and the other half withdrawing into an obscure self-defined ghetto of strange rules and conventions.

Intellectuals were obsessed with tinned food, and the idea that almost everyone else might as well be dead, their lives are so mundane and unimportant.

In some ways, T. S. Eliot's "Criterion" was the SOTCAA of its day! Maximum circulation of 750, full of diatribes on the evil of mass market fiction and newspapers.

End of thread, right? I'm always doing that.

Oh my God, he's dissing the corpses, everyone scarper!

>It's about how elitist critics of popular culture are typically self-styled serious artists who feel swamped by the scale of mainstream culture, and who spend half the time fantasising about doing away with most of humanity, and the other half withdrawing into an obscure self-defined ghetto of strange rules and conventions.
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>Intellectuals were obsessed with tinned food, and the idea that almost everyone else might as well be dead, their lives are so mundane and unimportant.
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>In some ways, T. S. Eliot's "Criterion" was the SOTCAA of its day! Maximum circulation of 750, full of diatribes on the evil of mass market fiction and newspapers.

Thank you! Life has to be mundane, we are but hollow tubes of pulsating flesh and sinew, waiting for gratification from both ends (and sometimes sideways).

I don't feel qualified till I read Carey's book. Which won't be this weekend, to be honest. I have Ronson's book to finish, then Stewart Lee's new one, then Jonathan Coe's new one, then Magnus Mills's new one.

Bless that amazon delivery service.

No, I think it's my duty now. It was good of them to review it though, I mean they could have reviewed Big Brother.

I think Germaine would have quite liked it. I read she wanted to take Eminem home for tea. She's welcome to him.

I can't get my head around what 'feminism' means, it's no longer about the right to wear patchwork dungarees and live in a tent with Alan Davies.

>I can't get my head around what 'feminism' means, it's no longer about the right to wear patchwork dungarees and live in a tent with Alan Davies.

Isn't it about women being better than men...oh wait, that's just true...

>>I can't get my head around what 'feminism' means, it's no longer about the right to wear patchwork dungarees and live in a tent with Alan Davies.
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>Isn't it about women being better than men...oh wait, that's just true...

Better for what, though? I can't say having the right to be killed in the front line smacks of liberation!

I would just luurrrrve to see an episode of Brass Eye about abortion. Those US pro-life fuckwits who murder clinic receptionists...string 'em up!!!!

>Better for what, though? I can't say having the right to be killed in the front line smacks of liberation!

mible...was being ironic...only exist to serve men...women should be offered to any nation threatening war to appease the offensive side...better place if seen not heard...

>If anyone's terribly bothered about it, I'll post up a transcript in the morning.

please please please

Hey I missed a whole thread there, who was slagging off Attention Scum? and why?
By the way, on a completely tenuous link and diverting from Newsnight for a sec, has anyone else called up C4 to thank them? I did when I got home from work today, and the fellow on the other end was quite taken aback when I said thanks to C4 for having the balls to show it. He said "It's been a hectic day" when I said I bet you've had a lot of calls. I just thought that since all the moaning hysterical british public were calling to complain and threaten to never watch C4 again, I'd try in some way to balance it out. Anyway it made me feel better.

I'm off now to do something less interesting instead

Ta Ta Tea Ta Ta

Jon

>and the whole scene was blue screen as far as i could tell, but perhaps the whole show was and i didn't notice.

I noticed that throughout the whole show (well the 'studio' bits anyway). This means they can cheaply run off a load more episodes without costly studio fees.