>When are you stubborn people going to admit what you know to be patently true, and that is that this show is absolutely brilliant?

Er, when it actually lives up to the hype?
Until then....

>When are you stubborn people going to admit what you know to be patently true, and that is that this show is absolutely brilliant?
>
When I see an episode of it that makes me laugh.

actually yesterday's was rather good i thought.

i'll be quiet now......

It reminded me of short drama scenes you had to do at school, inevitably ending in mass brawls. But adult. And therefore with pissed blokes and a big cock.

>When are you stubborn people going to admit what you know to be patently true, and that is that this show is absolutely brilliant?
>
Care to back that up with facts, FACTS?

While you ponder on that, here's my uniformed opinion.

Ricky Gervais and his stupid comedy persona ruined this show before it had even began. If he was replaced with an actor who doesn't insist on writing his own lines, and crucially, can play a character other than himself, The Office may have had a chance. As such, the presence of Gervais and his complete lack of comedy made this thing stillborn.

it was very good this week. the Gervais character really does symbolise the common man's struggle against competence.

i think the character Finchy, his "mate" was brilliant. a sort of Basil Fawlty, crossed with Alf Garnett. on acid.