There is no contest, take The Pleasance. The Gilded Balloon is a badly run joke. A Pleasance show at three in the morning is worth ten times a Gilded Balloon show at nine o'clock at night. Also, if you make any money, you're more likely to be paid it.

i thought the gb was knackered and shut this year

the celler's quite a nice venue. good atmosphere.

I'm with everyone else. Go for The Pleasance. 4.30pm isn't a bad time in Edinburgh in my opinion anyway. Anything after about 2.30pm (when everyone is awake and had breakfast) can work.

GB will run half an hour late and noise from other venues will spill in.
Go to Pleasance.

But you're getting a bit late. I've just decided to try and do an Edinburgh show this year (today) and now I've sent publicity people into a panic trying to find a venue and get something in the Fringe programme in time.

>But you're getting a bit late. I've just decided to try and do an Edinburgh show this year (today) and now I've sent publicity people into a panic trying to find a venue and get something in the Fringe programme in time.

He's right. I've just spent the last week being hassled about precise wording for posters and ads and we haven't even written a word yet. Thus, we have a great title and no show. I understand this is what happens to everybody every year and that's why all the shows have great titles and are still shit.

We're at the Pleasance. (Sorry, just felt like trying the words out - see how they feel. They feel a bit cuntish actually. Hmm.)

Is that really an adjective...?

Thank you, all. We will indeed take the Pleasance, if we can. It wasn't us that was late, by the way- it was the Pleasance who suddenly got back in touch and said that a space had come up, and oh, maybe they could fit us in at 4:30. Maybe. Perhaps. They'd tell us for certain today. Now they've gone all skittish again, and are hard to get in touch with. Maybe this is because Mr Herring has just decided to do a show. Don't take our slot away, nice Mr Herring...

I won't. It sounds like I'm going to their new venue a bit over the road (and not the same time as you). Hopefully people will be able to find it!
I'm all excited now. Didn't think I'd make Ed this year. Like AC I have a title and no show, but at least that keeps my options open!
Book early to avoid (my own) disappointment

>I'm all excited now. Didn't think I'd make Ed this year. Like AC I have a title and no show, but at least that keeps my options open!

Any idea what sort of show, stand up or another play? Are we allowed to ask the title?

What's Andrew Collins' show then. Was I the only one thinking he was a Journo?

See earlier post in 'NME is crap' thread - reminiscing about NME heydays I think, with Stuart Maconie and David Quantick. Andrew Collins wrote the Q charts, which are the funniest things in any magazine, ever. Quantick writes lots of funny things and was also very funny on Collins and Maconie's hit parade. Maconie is a very talented journalist who unfortunately appears on too many of those 'I love the...' shows.

And unfortunately writes them too.

There appears to be a new clique forming. Just thought I'd jump on the bandwagon as usual.

I will be giving a performance of my hilarious review entitled "Wither Semen?" in the cupboard under my stairs. 18th June, £2 in advance.

Meanwhile, I shall have to wait until the publication of the new SOTCAA Edinburgh Parody to find out what I'll be doing at the festival...

>But you're getting a bit late. I've just decided to try and do an Edinburgh show this year (today) and now I've sent publicity people into a panic trying to find a venue and get something in the Fringe programme in time.

"Oh, Captain Oates...!"

>See earlier post in 'NME is crap' thread - reminiscing about NME heydays I think, with Stuart Maconie and David Quantick.

It's called LLOYD COLE KNEW MY FATHER and is indeed based on our reminiscences of being rock journalists in the late 80s and early 90s (it came to Stuart in a dream, and the next thing we knew it was booked up on a tidal wave of why-the-hell-not-eh?). An hour of amusing rock anecdotes, we hope. The posters look good anyway. August 20-27, Pleasance Cavern. Come and boo us for not being proper "comedians" whatever that is (oh yeah, we didn't all go to Oxbridge!)

And here's the flyer...

>And here's the flyer

Bloody hell that looks good!

Maybe we should just leave it at that and quit while we're ahead.

Thanks for that, Rob.

(Is Quantick out there reading this?)

SOTCAA in shock publicity for favourable articles scandal

I hate the fact the the artistes are not in the order they are in the title ie. Maconie should be standing in the middle.

>Maconie should be standing in the middle.

Maybe it's a height thing. Balanced photography 'n' all that?

Is that the same design team for Select (Scarlet), Andrew? It looks it.

>Is that the same design team for Select (Scarlet), Andrew? It looks it.

No idea. Out of our hands, mate. Hope so. As for the line-up/names discrepancy, I think you are all making fools of yourself: that *is* Quantick on the right and Maconie in the middle. Stuart's standing on a box and Dave has been at the Priory.

>>But you're getting a bit late. I've just decided to try and do an Edinburgh show this year (today) and now I've sent publicity people into a panic trying to find a venue and get something in the Fringe programme in time.
>
>He's right. I've just spent the last week being hassled about precise wording for posters and ads and we haven't even written a word yet. Thus, we have a great title and no show. I understand this is what happens to everybody every year and that's why all the shows have great titles and are still shit.

Ah, the benefits of working your own venue (oh, ok, working for someone else's management company that offers you a nice 8.30 pm slot despite your being a bunch of layabout students and not even Oxbridge ones), you never have to worry about slots, just about pissing off the techies. The only downsides being you have to do the load in and get out, and cook four meals a day for 85 people three days in a row...

That quote from the Evening Standard - what show does it refer to? I mean, if this is your debut as a trio of professional lounge gossipers, how can they yet have proof that anything is the new something else?

"Sony Award Winning" may give you a clue, Peter. The three of them made 'Collins & Maconie's Hit Parade' for Radio 1 in the mid-Nineties.

Yes that explains it roundly. So is Quantick the green new boy finally come of age?

Happy me! Just as we'd given up hope, and were preparing to slink back to Karen Koren with our tails between our legs, the Pleasance HAVE got back to us, and offered us 4:45 at Pleasance Dome. Wherever that may be. This is not of much interest to anyone else, I know, but I'm very smiley about it.

>Happy me! Just as we'd given up hope, and were preparing to slink back to Karen Koren with our tails between our legs, the Pleasance HAVE got back to us, and offered us 4:45 at Pleasance Dome. Wherever that may be. This is not of much interest to anyone else, I know, but I'm very smiley about it.

Is that the Pleasance annexing The Dome (in George Street), or is it something v sad like Southside Tent, which really was just a tent in Southside Courtyard?

>SOTCAA in shock publicity for favourable articles scandal

I wasn't consulted about the above for a start...

And Stewart Lee had a go at me last night over the nastiness Andrew Collins has had to put up with on the forum.

I'm sick of this fucking website.

>I'm sick of this fucking website.

But you can't leave, and that's not even a plea for you to stay; it's a fact.

>That quote from the Evening Standard - what show does it refer to?

Hit Parade, featuring me, him and him. (I'll be there are more tenuous quotes than that at Edinburgh.)

I respect you greatly for your tacit admission that such quotes may be considered tenuous.

Personally, I'd go the whole hog and stick this on the poster:
"Who gathered the wind in his fist? Who bound the waters in his garment?" - Proverbs 30:3

Didn't Richard Herring spend five years promoting his plays by quoting the Guardian saying that his 1994 show about punk was 'fucking brilliant' or something? Nothing wrong with that of course.

>>SOTCAA in shock publicity for favourable articles scandal
>
>I wasn't consulted about the above for a start...

I was quite surprised to see it too. Thought there was going to be some kind of voluntary link, rather than the actual "ugly men of rock" in your face. Apologies to anyone who felt violated. (Mind you, if it is shameless publicity it's for an event that's four months away - you're hardly selling tickets.) I am aware that there's a danger even talking about Edinburgh to the site that created the mighty Edinburgh pisstake.

>And Stewart Lee had a go at me last night over the nastiness Andrew Collins has had to put up with on the forum.

Nice of SL to step up, as they say, but a) I can take it, b) it wasn't that nasty, and c) you, Mike and Rob S can't control what people post - nor would you want to. It's a free country.

>I'm sick of this fucking website.

We're not.

Oh, and is it possible to sell tickets . . .

>And Stewart Lee had a go at me last night over the nastiness Andrew Collins has had to put up with on the forum.

Oh no, and in a two-pronged attack I'm having a go at you over the Gorman stuff. I feel partly responsible for this comment now:
>I'm sick of this fucking website.
Joe, this could be group hug time. On a positive note can I just say how much last year's Edinburgh parody amused me? It helped make up for not being there. As indeed it shall this year. Damn the Australian dollar.

>Oh no, and in a two-pronged attack I'm having a go at you over the Gorman stuff. I feel partly responsible for this comment now

It's nothing to do with you. Media scum blindly defending their media scum mates while dropping in references to conspiracy theories? That's the norm - I'm used to it. If you want to promote yourself on here that's fine, as long as it's not visibly SOTCAA policy.

But when Rob or Bent start pasting in ads for shows - thus giving pricks like Herring easy means to slag us (to be followed no doubt soon by those bitches from Comedy Lounge who'll just indignantly repeat verbatim everything he says) then I start to wonder whether anybody else actually understands what this site is about.

>Joe, this could be group hug time.

I don't suffer cunts gladly, Janet. We're never going to be mates, okay?

>I start to wonder whether anybody else actually understands what this site is about.

I understand what this site is about, Joseph Champniss, I understand what this site is about. It is about the fact that you hate nearly all stand-up comics, and all journalists. You ask, nay, DEMAND that all comics are as funny as David Baddiel. Regrettably, the only people that post to your newsgroup are stand-up comics and journalists. I'm not sure that that last posting was from you as you descrbied Richard Herring, who I thought was your mate, as a prick. Nonetheless, if it genuinely WAS from you then it's surely truer to the philosophy of your site than any of your Joe4SOTCAA-headed posts have been, and thus I salute you. Well done.

Oh, alright, I admit it. I'm Dom Joly.

Yes, it was from me. I wasn't posting on behalf of the site there. I am now.

I have this image of you, Don as the loudmouthed little 'expert' within your little clique, always ready to dispense half-gestated opinion on how 'fackin' brilliant' Spaced, Ali G or Dom Jolly is, and who, upon suddenly discovering a forum filled with people who are more informed and opinionated than yourself (and who actually care passionately about comedy rather than cackling as a means to an end), feels the need to compensate for your own narrowmindedness by attempting to undermine anyone else's opinions with ill-considered sneery contempt and bring everything down to your level.

And that's what you've done for the past few weeks. Little matter that, time and time again, you've ended up retracting your bletherings and apologising. No big deal that you don't even bother familiarising yourself with the basic set-up of the forum before dealing out your snide knee-jerks. As far as you're concerned you're the most correct, well-sorted and sexy contributor to this forum. Hand him his crown, somebody. We have a new winner.

We've seen a dozen of you come and go, mate. You're nothing special.

Well done yourself.