Running gags Posted Thu Dec 14 00:40:11 GMT 2000 by 'McGinty'

What's people's opinions on this currenty popular sketch show device? Great build for character's who the public can take to their hearts, or a chance for lazy writers to re-use the same fucking joke all the time?


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Posted By 'Ted Bellingham' on Thu Dec 14 01:29:29 GMT 2000:

> Great build for character's who the public can take to their hearts, or a chance for lazy writers to re-use the same fucking joke all the time?

A combination of the two, plus a third factor: the production budget. Sketch shows tend to be incredibly expensive, but you can save cash by shooting a bunch of sketches which all use the same character in the same location.

The downside is that you have to watch a one-dimensional character spouting a tired variation on the same line six hundred times. The upside is that the money saved can be spent elsewhere -- on a shiny chariot for a shit Gladiator spoof, for instance.

Such is life.


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Posted By 'nunuf urbuznuz' on Thu Dec 14 12:42:40 GMT 2000:

Some running gags work because they develop a simple idea and after a while, you no longer need exposition.

All my running gags have always got good laughs but i use them selectively.


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Posted By One Day Soon on Fri Dec 15 14:08:32 GMT 2000:

Running gags aren't 'currently popular'. There traditional, and can work extremely well if utilised correctly.


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Posted By 'Spion Felding' on Fri Dec 15 14:17:59 GMT 2000:

>Running gags aren't 'currently popular'. They're traditional, and can work extremely well if utilised correctly.

Damn right. Just look at Python.. The Spanish Inquisition and Chapman's Colonel to name just The Spanish Inquisition and Chapman's Colonel.


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Posted By 'Stuart O' on Fri Dec 15 15:01:08 GMT 2000:

The Spanish Inquisition is a great example, and in fact it is a proper running joke, in that the whole episode was structured around it. Also, the joke escalated through the show, building up perfectly to the "Oh, bugger!" punchline.

What is much more common, however, is the reccurring character sketches that pad out almost all sketch shows, not just The Fast Show and Harry Enfield. These are just excuses for reusing the same punchlines over and over, across many episodes, just by putting a one-joke character in different situations (Unlucky Alf being a perfect example). The jokes aren't running; they're standing still.

Occasionally they do get it right - Monkfish from The Fast Show was very good, for instance.

It is right to say, though, that this is nothing new. Eh? Where's me washboard?


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Posted By Joe4SOTCAA on Fri Dec 15 20:01:39 GMT 2000:

>Damn right. Just look at Python.. The Spanish Inquisition and Chapman's Colonel to name just The Spanish Inquisition and Chapman's Colonel.

There was no overkill there though. For instance, I only recall about two back-refs to 'Spanish Inquisition' in the whole of Flying Circus.


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Posted By 'Gee' on Sat Dec 16 16:32:24 GMT 2000:

"Hey Little Hen" Harry Hill. Please let's hope this show never comes back.


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Posted By Joe4SOTCAA on Mon Dec 18 02:33:16 GMT 2000:

>"Hey Little Hen" Harry Hill. Please let's hope this show never comes back.

It won't.


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Posted By 'Unruly Butler' on Fri Dec 22 12:35:50 GMT 2000:

Running gags are often a way of holding the audience's hand when doing something left-field and off-the-wall (TV speak).
If a character behaves unexpectedly, inexplicably, bizarrely, it often just alienates most of the audience (while making one or two of the more discerning ones wet their pants). Repeat that character every week, and people know what they're supposed to be laughing at, then, hands held, they can laugh along.
Look at what Reeves & Mortimer did with Swiss Toni compared to what the Fast Show did.
One a one-off appearance, bizarre and beautiful, the other a weekly visit, single-minded and repetitive. And which one was more successful?


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Posted By '"The Mole"' on Tue Dec 26 23:50:35 GMT 2000:

Spike Milligan was the master of the running gag in the Q series with his corn plasters,elderly actor always reading from his script and the best way to finish a sketch with"What are we gonna do now?"repeated over and over again in a monotone voice.


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