Cheers, Gareth. We'll correct as we go along.

Actually I think Gareth was the bloke who gave Andrew his tapes, who sent them on to us, so thanks for that too Gareth.

>Cheers, Gareth. We'll correct as we go along.

Can you also do something about Jeremy Beadle's Hampton? It seems to suffer from the same problem as his hand.

I think that's just the glans peeking through... The rest, as they say, is history.

>I think that's just the glans peeking through... The rest, as they say, is history.

I thought it was geography. Or even a free period.

It's a vile image, whatever the subject.

Good to have the Corpses back, by the way. The criticism is informed and worthwhile, but when it comes down to it, we're here because we have no other way of seeing third-rate TV pranksters exposing themselves. Next week: Jonathan Routh moons at Peter Dulay in the bar at Teddington - we 'ave pictures. The week after that: Steve Penk sits on an upturned beer crate crying and wanking at the hollowness of his success.

>Actually I think Gareth was the bloke who
>gave Andrew his tapes, who sent them on to
>us, so thanks for that too Gareth.

No worries. If you're interested in expanding the page, I have a fair few more tapes (mostly ITV ones from 1983-85), and hopefully I shall be getting my hands on some early 70s ones too.

>No worries. If you're interested in expanding the page, I have a fair few more tapes (mostly ITV ones from 1983-85), and hopefully I shall be getting my hands on some early 70s ones too.

You're too kind. Thank you.

I've definitely seen a '70s Yorkshire one with out-takes from 3-2-1 plus specially set up stuff with the cast and crew but no audience. The humour is even less sophisticated than the BBC efforts.

Incidentally, the article mentions some reasons why the Christmas tape slowly died a death, but not the most likely. Producer Choice (or the 'internal market') at the BBC means that studio and edit time have to be paid for out of individual programme budgets (as opposed to simply being charged back to departments) and accounted for. Thus, every second of VT time is now used to edit the programme. VTs are logged in and out of VT sessions, rather than being left in edit suites and/or getting lost/copied. VT editors still have loads of time on their hands, but they have less freedom with materials and equipment.

Presumably, as the ITV regions only ever raise their game when the Beeb sets the agenda, they've given up bothering.

Cheerio

Steve

every second of VT time is now used to edit the programme. VTs are logged in and out of VT sessions, rather than being left in edit suites and/or getting lost/copied. VT editors still have loads of time on their hands, but they have less freedom with materials and equipment.
>

True- but also

a) a lot of BBC programming is made by indies now and the BBC editors may never see the rushes

b) Christmas tapes probably also depended on a dedicated staff team of editors seeing the fluffs as they cut the programmes together- since staff editors are a rarity now, and a number of BBC shows are edited all over the place, the same 'family atmosphere' of the 'boys in the backroom' kindly cobbling together a Xmas reel isn't very likely to happen.

I did liberate one from Anglia once though- made by the news team so it would appear, and in the days of film (another reason some rushes disappear- they're wiped over) which is mostly reporters the editors obviously hated fluffing lines OVER and OVER again. Oh and a sound man caught on film having a wee behind a tree.

Ha ha ha.

Someone mentioned in an above post that the 78 and 79 tapes are the most widely bootlegged and, from the listings, they seem to have the best quality and quantity of stuff on them.

Its just a shame that nobody around here can make the odd duplicate of them...