"24 Hour Party People" Posted Thu Nov 9 13:53:50 GMT 2000 by 'Jon'

The story of Factory Records. Is now going ahead, with Steve Coogan as Tony Wilson, and John Simm as Bernard Sumner.


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Posted By 'Dan F' on Thu Nov 9 14:00:21 GMT 2000:

Who's playing Gillian Gilbert?


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Posted By 'Jon' on Thu Nov 9 14:04:29 GMT 2000:

Dunno, nor which channel it'll be on. I'd have thought only C4 would go in for it.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Thu Nov 9 21:43:19 GMT 2000:

I'd like to see Johathon Cohen as Shaun Ryder.


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Posted By TJ on Thu Nov 9 22:32:34 GMT 2000:

Yeah... but who's playing Dermo from Northside?


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Thu Nov 9 22:37:30 GMT 2000:

Why, Toni Arthur, of course.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Thu Nov 9 22:39:05 GMT 2000:

I just laughed for about a minute at that concept. That, to me, is the point of an Internet forum - to make myself laugh, and probably just annoy others.


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Posted By 'niceguyeddie (an embittered Mondays fan)' on Fri Nov 10 08:45:41 GMT 2000:

So I assume that this would be the story of how a bunch of incompetent chancers managed to split up the Happy Mondays?

Personally I'd love to see the scene where Shaun Ryder (played by himself) and Bez (played by a stick with a skull on top) walk out on a rip-off contract, go for KFC and never return...


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 10 08:49:57 GMT 2000:

"So I assume that this would be the story of how a bunch of incompetent chancers managed to split up the Happy Mondays?"

Yes, it's about how the Mondays split themselves up.


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Posted By 'niceguyeddie' on Fri Nov 10 09:09:36 GMT 2000:

>"So I assume that this would be the story of how a bunch of incompetent chancers managed to split up the Happy Mondays?"
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>Yes, it's about how the Mondays split themselves up.

You musn't know the story properly...


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Posted By TJ on Fri Nov 10 09:12:05 GMT 2000:

I do... problems on both sides. Factory should have tried harder to control them, but ultimately Ryder and co were masters of their own undoing


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Posted By 'niceguyeddie' on Fri Nov 10 09:18:25 GMT 2000:

Shaun, PD, Paul and Mark Day were always fighting... they would kick the shit out of each other during recording sessions.

It was the contract giving all royalties for writing to PD (keyboard player for the uninitiated) that split them up.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 10 09:28:37 GMT 2000:

Would that be the keyboard player who had to have his keyboard programmed for him by someone else?

While we're on the subject, what happened to Trigger Happy, the band that Mark Day claimed he'd put together in 1995 and had major label interest for? They didn't even get a mention when the Mondays reunion happened (not that Day was going to be in that anyway).


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Posted By 'niceguyeddie' on Fri Nov 10 10:45:18 GMT 2000:

>Would that be the keyboard player who had to have his keyboard programmed for him by someone else?

Yeah, shows how aware of the band the record company were that they were going to give PD all the royalties because they thought he was the front man...

>While we're on the subject, what happened to Trigger Happy, the band that Mark Day claimed he'd put together in 1995 and had major label interest for? They didn't even get a mention when the Mondays reunion happened (not that Day was going to be in that anyway).

No idea... but Mark Day and PD were never going to be in any Happy Mondays with Shaun Ryder.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 10 11:49:16 GMT 2000:

"Cowhead and Knobhead" as Ryder dubbed them.

I'm surprised Factory didn't know the score with PD. It does actually say in the sleevenotes for "Pills 'N' Thrills": "Programming by Simon Machen".

But I'm not surprised Wilson never bothered to look at the records... he certainly never listened to any by Northside....


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Fri Nov 10 16:43:11 GMT 2000:

I thought the end came when the lawyers discovered that Factory wasn't actually going to earn any money from the New Order back catalogue. If Wilson had been slightly less of an arse and had signed New Order properly so that he owned the rights to their previous albums, then the income from that would have kept the operation limping along until the Happy Mondays had run out of crack long enough to record another dreary album (and then they could have afforded to get it remixed by someone so it was a success.)


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 10 16:58:26 GMT 2000:

They introduced proper contracts for new acts after James got poached by Sire, but business brain Wilson didn't think to get the old acts onto them as well.

They wanted to run it unlike a conventional record company. They achieved it by being more incompetent.


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