I loved the Coogan bit - he totally overestimated the audiences' intelligence. He comes on and does an excellent parody of an uncomfortable celeb trying to be funny at an awards ceremony, and the audience just whoops uncomfortably and misses the point, and you can hear them all thinking "Ooh.. not as funny as his hilarous Alan Partridge character" at which point he starts to look genuinely uncomfortable.
Summary: uncomfortable.
This fucking 'Cyderdelic' fiasco is indicative of a real problem at the heart of TV at the moment - established people with good track records are finding it impossible to get ideas commissioned, no matter how sound, while tedious amateurs are having money thrown at them because the commissioning editors are desperate not to seem "stuffy" or "behind the times".
We already know what Cyderdelic's joke is. (Sorry, anyone who's seen the awards ceremony, anyway.) They're out to satirise anarcho-terrorists, with all the subtlety of Harry Enfield. On Sky.
Meanwhile the other ideas, all of which showed more promise, will probably languish and ultimately be forgotten as their proponents go on to do other stuff they're not really keen on just to pay their rent. *Maybe* they'll end up on a small digital channel, and if so, good luck to them � these may seem trivial and peripheral at the moment (UK Play, for God's sake), but the more that the major broadcasters are content to let good material and performers dribble through their grasp, the more the digital channels will snap them up, and a few years down the line, this could start to get interesting.
For now, though, Cyderdelic have got our money, and you can be sure that a year from now, student union bars up and down the country will be echoing with their "hilarious" catchphrases. We need SOTCAA back more than ever.
Pretty bloody funny when the posh old sods started nodding away when Blur came on.
>For now, though, Cyderdelic have got our money, and you can be sure that a year from now, student union bars up and down the country will be echoing with their "hilarious" catchphrases.
True, and very depressing.
>We need SOTCAA back more than ever.
Why?? What could they possibly do? Take the piss for a bit? Yeah, great...
>>We need SOTCAA back more than ever.
>Why?? What could they possibly do? Take the piss for a bit? Yeah, great...
The fact that this forum hasn't been attached to SOTCAA for some time and yet a stupid piece of gossip from it ends up in the Sun (Bill Oddie/Steps) shows just how far they got before they were closed - that transcript still gets mentions in the papers... they were on to something, pity the forum contributors who are blind to that.
>(blah) shows just how far they got before they were closed
I think you'll find that they CHOSE to shut down the site. Rob's always very keen to point this out, and then instantly clams up when we ask why the Christ they chose to do it. So we don't ask.
>The fact that this forum hasn't been attached to SOTCAA for some time and yet a stupid piece of gossip from it ends up in the Sun (Bill Oddie/Steps) shows just how far they got before they were closed - that transcript still gets mentions in the papers...
So??? I honestly can't see how this is changing the comedy industry, or even how it is of any real worth...their archive material was really great, as a source of rare/unavailable old material (such as OOTT) the site was invaluable, but all that embarrassing wittering about "direct action" amounted to nothing. Let's not get carried away here...
>they were on to something, pity the forum contributors who are blind to that.
Er, I *did* leave a name. Which is more than you had the guts to do.
>So??? I honestly can't see how this is changing the comedy industry, or even how it is of any real worth...their archive material was really great, as a source of rare/unavailable old material (such as OOTT) the site was invaluable, but all that embarrassing wittering about "direct action" amounted to nothing. Let's not get carried away here...
So you don't think a national newspaper publishing a dull piece of gossip written by a nobody on here is slightly bizarre? It's hard to measure SOTCAA influence but given their ex-forum is being used like this... Media people are obviously reading this (still fairly new) site. If SOTCAA had carried on, who knows where they could of gone.
>>they were on to something, pity the forum contributors who are blind to that.
>Er, I *did* leave a name. Which is more than you had the guts to do.
Yes and I'm sure that's your real name.
SOTCAA may have had an impact, but I cannot believe media people (apart from the 11OCS crew) still read this forum. Unless they are ident fans. Or very bored.
Anyhow, I saw a bit of the Awards show, couldn't make out what the point was, and was repelled by it, even though people I liked were involved. It all seemed a bit desperate to play up the 'innovation' angle. I wouldn't say 'Black Books' was particularly innovative (it was more conventional than 'Fr Ted') but it was one of the best shows of the year, easily. So the whole premise seems a bit pointless to me - emphasising quirkiness over quality.
>SOTCAA may have had an impact, but I cannot believe media people (apart from the 11OCS crew) still read this forum. Unless they are ident fans. Or very bored.
Well my point is that I would of thought that to until the Sun thing happened.
have
Is it just possible they got the story somehow else? Like someone passing through saw it, then sent it into them?
Just a thought.
> If SOTCAA had carried on, who knows where they could of gone.
This is exactly the sort of vague allusion I'm on about. I would *love* it if the Corpses could change the comedy industry in some way, I'm sure they would too, but I just don't see *how*. And nobody's ever given a satisfactory answer.
>>Yes and I'm sure that's your real name.
People know who I am by it. (My real name cannot be pronounced by the human tongue.)
That should read: "nobody HAS ever given an answer".
'It's a sketch show, but it's not played for laughs - it offers something a lot darker...'
(BBC2 awards)
Idiots like that shouldn't be allowed anywhere *near* comedy. But for some reason it's music to producers' ears...
What were they talking about - Lucky Bag?
I enjoyed the sight of Kevin Eldon bopping and singing along to Blur's 'Song 2'. I remember Liza Tarbuck once saying that he was a great music enthusiast.
Other than that little trinket I can't say I was impressed at all. And what were they thinking awarding Cyderdelic a ticket to air their destitute talents? Steve Coogan made for very terrible TV too.
Who was that person who won the Jaaaam visual award? Famous?
Most distressing of all is the fact that Jaaam's "award-winning" visuals are all easily replicated with the flick of a button on any new DV camera, which is what the series was mostly filmed on. Do you think the judges realised this?
Who the hell are Cyderdelic? I couldn't be bothered watching the whole thing, but clearly they're going to be getting a lot of attention, so could someone tell who they are and what they do?
Are they those people on Comedy Nation who did the sketch about a pair of country-bumpkin rave DJs? That was sort-of alright, but I can't see much mileage in the idea.
>Most distressing of all is the fact that Jaaam's "award-winning" visuals are all easily replicated with the flick of a button on any new DV camera, which is what the series was mostly filmed on. Do you think the judges realised this?
Probably not, because it takes the appropriate use of these techniques in a well-made series by an established name with an impressive CV to get these kind of things noticed.
It may not be ground-breaking to film students and gadget freaks, but to the many people whose tastes are just off the beaten path (surely the target audience for the BBC2 awards), it is.
Cyderdelic.
Er, no.
Cyderdelic were not the "alright-ish" blokes on Comedy Nation - I know because that was us, and as far as I know, we're not them. See more of our old "alright-ish" crap at http://www.digitalcomedynipple.co.uk. Maybe someone will make an entire act out of our Underworld eating crisps thing...
>http://www.digitalcomedynipple.co.uk
Strangely, this seems to be 'one of the NetKommerce Group of websites'. Nothing funny there at all.
ODS
That has to be the least funny website in existence.