Yep, I'll go along with that one.

so wilkl i

Only 551 more posts to go and we'll be beating them...

Oh, and I agree.

Yep. me too. Universally crap.

All lamentable. Those who obsess over them should know the shame that they so rightly deserve to feel.

As a matter of fact, I'm in agreement on this too. 7 postings and counting.

Me too.

And me.

If everyone, seemingly, hates them, how is the 'other' thread so blinking popular?

Because everyone doesn't. *I* do - but try going into that thread up the top and expressing the views present here. Lots o' luck.

Let me see. No.

Utter shite

Mindless tedium.

Agreed.

I hate them too.

And me.

Boooooooring... the lot of them.

Yep

Incalculably dull.

Anything by BBC East.
Those 5.30pm *local* programmes on Anglia.

(...but you probaly guessed that I'd say that) ;)

Or indeed, anything at all.

It's been said before, but... all of'em. All local TV is terrible.

Hopeless.

anything on BBC Wales - do we really need to opt out of quality network productions.

Lucky bag - if only the rest of the country could see it....tut-tut

Is The League Of Gentlemen a Local programme? D'ya geddit?!? Local!

It was better on local radio.

Well I don't give a shite about this stupid forum anymore, so I guess I'll be the token dissenter...

>Well I don't give a shite about this stupid forum anymore, so I guess I'll be the token dissenter...

I hope you don't really mean that Jase. I said some nice things about you in the 'best Forum Threads Today' thread. I hope you haven't taken the EVIL GASBOTTLE stuff to heart... It's all in fun, honest.

Yeah Jase, local TV programmes may be uniformly awful, but this forum would be even duller than that without you around...

I mean every word Al. It's not what anyone has said or done, least of all the EVIL clan, I'm just fatigued with the whole thing. Really can't go on anymore...

>I mean every word Al. It's not what anyone has said or done, least of all the EVIL clan, I'm just fatigued with the whole thing. Really can't go on anymore...

I know the feeling - I've given up on this forum about three times. For some reason though, I always end up returning...

And I agree as well, and I will say that the anti-ident brigade have played a part in my disenchantment...

>All lamentable. Those who obsess over them should know the shame that they so rightly deserve to feel.

Well that says it all. Why was this thread started? To actually discuss bad regional TV, or to score cheap points against the side of the forum that isn't quite as interested in comedy?

Why do I contribute to a forum when I know my messages are being regarded (if not actually read) with contempt?

But, perhaps I won't leave just yet - I'll start a thread about BBC Northern Ireland's comedy output, like 'PK Tonight' or 'Give My Head Peace' and see what response that gets...

I actually think this thread was intended as a joke - I don't think anyone really hates you - why would they?

Well, I do.

Obviously I don't think anyone (apart from Jon) hates me.

My complaint is about the sneering attitude of some contributors to the forum towards the others as a group. And this thread is a very good example of it, joke or not.

And if it was a joke, did it seem especially funny to anyone? 'I think local TV is rubbish' - that's hardly a cutting parody of the no.1 thread is it?

No, OK, it's not very clever, or funny. But I don't think anyone's really sneering at you. I gleefully join in with the IDENTS IDEANTSF nonsense because I think it's silly, and hence it amuses me. I'm sure that's how most people feel about it. And I don't really enjoy local news, no. Jase has some very interesting theories about why I don't, which may well be true. I think, speaking for myself, I'm just a bit bemused about the enthusiasm they generate. But I wouldn't want to seem sneery or superior - live and let live and all that.

>I'll start a thread about BBC Northern Ireland's comedy output, like 'PK Tonight' or 'Give My Head Peace' and see what response that gets...

It'd get a responce from me as both are great. But don't forget that all SkyDigital viewers right across the UK can watch these progs on BBC Choice NI on channel Nine hundred and something or other (160 in N Ireland)

I don't really hate you.

No, he hates local TV

Good, because I'm terribly fond of you...

You're lying, you hate me just like all the others do...

We don't all hate you, Jon. Paul does.

What about George and Ringo?

Er, No, I don't hate you Jon.

George :)

PS> I only attack local shows because the vast majority of them are really crap, espically BBC Look East, which is smug rural lobby pap, cosy with the Tories (Private Eye readers will know why), and hates town people, who make up the vast majority of the audience.

For example (and this is true), on the day of the Hatfield Rail Accident, Look East gave William Hague a free soapbox to twat on about pig farmers in Suffolk.

I'm not sure I actually *hate* local TV, but I am truly amazed that something like 570 postings have been sent on Best Local TV Programmes - not even the forum radio show (where, let's face it, you just add a track - not difficult) is likely to catch it up.

Sincere question: Can someone summarise the story so far in BLTVP? Maybe we're missing out....

Well...

It's the theme musics, the graphics, the sets but mainly the bizarre personalities. It's the fact that these programmes are on several times throughout the day (so there's always something new to mention).

It's Peter Levy and Sarah Badham parodying sexual chemistry on Look North, it's Mike Morris visibly withering during each edition of Calendar, it's Sean Rafferty's handkerchief, Mike Neville's ego, Guy Michelmore's music royalties, Fred Dinenage's co-presenter, or Mark Owen's reasons for quitting...

Have a look at:
http://members.nbci.com/roundthe/regions.html

It's not that we take it that seriously, you know - it's just a bit of fun!!

>It's Peter Levy and Sarah Badham parodying sexual chemistry on Look North, it's Mike Morris visibly withering during each edition of Calendar, it's Sean Rafferty's handkerchief, Mike Neville's ego, Guy Michelmore's music royalties, Fred Dinenage's co-presenter, or Mark Owen's reasons for quitting...

Heavyweight newsreader Mike Neville, CyptonFactor West Tonight with Gordon Burns, and we have to ask, MetroPoll - is this the crappest name for a parlimanetary prog yet?

>and we have to ask, MetroPoll - is this the crappest name for a parlimanetary prog yet?

I watched the start of this on BBC TWO Digital Couldn'tBeArsedWithRegionsYet.

What does it mean, anyway? Why couldn't they have left it as 'Around Westminster' as London hasn't changed its position geographically - it is still 'around' the nation's Parliament.

Ok, so it has lots of London Mayoral stuff now. But what does it mean?

I'm wondering whether I prefered it to what BBC TWO Analogue NI were showing - namely Teletubbies in Irish!

Another point - why do listings mags list digital variations (from analogue) for BBC ONE in England when these only apply to DSat? And why do they only list digital variations for BBC TWO inside England when they also exist elsewhere.

Anyway....

>Ok, so it has lots of London Mayoral stuff now. But what does it mean?

Bugger all I think ;)

>Another point - why do listings mags list digital variations (from analogue) for BBC ONE in England when these only apply to DSat?

Digital Teletext is just as bad for this. UK TODAY it proclaims. I just go AHEM! Newsroom South East!

>And why do they only list digital variations for BBC TWO inside England when they also exist elsewhere.

BBC Text's regions on OnDigital seems to be offering BBC ONE Ireland rather than BBC ONE Regional Variations. Why it thinks that Ireland is the only region, I don't know...

>BBC Text's regions on OnDigital seems to be offering BBC ONE Ireland rather than BBC ONE Regional Variations. Why it thinks that Ireland is the only region, I don't know...

I thought they had finally got around to regionalising it when I saw this at the weekend. Obviously not. I wonder why it is listed as "BBC ONE Ireland" and not "BBC ONE Northern Ireland" - I have seen this in several BBC things recently. Maybe the Beeb are going for "Vague Regions" - everything north of the Watford Gap (including Scotland) should be BBC North from now on....