A Serious Question Posted Tue Oct 31 15:25:08 GMT 2000 by 'Jon'

With regard to the Jamie Bulger killers, was it ever established that the "Child's Play" video had any influence on, or inspiration for them, or was that just a bit of tabloid sensationalism?


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Posted By 'salmacis' on Tue Oct 31 16:30:18 GMT 2000:

It was tabloid sensationalism.

Duh.


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Posted By TJ on Tue Oct 31 17:23:05 GMT 2000:

I have no desire to get caught up in this, but as someone who did a detailed dissertation on video censorship, I can confirm that the answer is "no". It wasn't even mentioned in the trial.

Incidentally, his name was James and not Jamie. Another tabloid invention, sad to say...


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Posted By 'Nunuf Urbuznuz' on Wed Nov 1 12:46:07 GMT 2000:

A 10-year-old has hanged himself, imitating Mel Gibson's character in Braveheart. Can anyone remember what age rating the video of Braveheart has?


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Posted By 'salmacis' on Wed Nov 1 13:17:47 GMT 2000:

9 and three quarters?


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Posted By 'Radiator Head Child' on Wed Nov 1 21:51:39 GMT 2000:

Oh dear this is a little morbid, but today we were discussing human rights and I'm interested in taking A Level Ethics and RE anymore stuff to think on?


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Posted By 'Unruly Butler' on Thu Nov 2 00:51:47 GMT 2000:

Every so often the tabloids decide it would be much scarier if only spooky strangers hurt children (rather than the vast majority of interfamilial abuse that actually takes place) and so they invest some poor, unfortunate child with a pointless and infantile sobriquet.
You mention "Little Jamie Bulger" (James Bulger), but there was also "Baby Abbie Humphries" (Abigail Humphries) and of course, simply, "Sarah" for Sarah Payne.
Makes you sick.
(I take it everyone's read "Fullalove" by Gordon Burn and "As If" by Blake Morrisson - stunners both)


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Thu Nov 2 08:21:29 GMT 2000:

I think it's about time we had 'Kevin's Law' - a law to protect little innocent lads like Kevin, 6, who innocently sucked on a car exhaust pipe for three hours because he thought it was an innocent child's sucking implement. Car manufacturers must not be allowed to get away with this.


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Posted By 'Al' on Thu Nov 2 19:07:28 GMT 2000:

If memory serves, Mel Gibson's character in 'Braveheart' was tortured, disembowelled alive, then hanged, by the Engllsh army. Surely the kiddie in question didn't go to all that trouble. Perhaps he had been watching 'Dance With a Stranger'? Or 'Jesus Christ Superstar'? (There's a bit where Judas hangs himself from a tree - quite unsettled me that did...)


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 3 09:56:07 GMT 2000:

Or reading the Bible, in that case?


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Posted By 'PJ' on Fri Nov 3 11:58:15 GMT 2000:

Interesting. I wonder what would happen if a 9-year-old did crucify themself whilst wearing a crown of thorns. Would they ban "that book" then? OR would they just laugh it off? "silly boy, thought he was the second coming, but he found out the hard way didn't he?" Then again, you can't really put the author in jail can you? Or a crucifix and a crown of thorns for that matter... hmm...


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 3 12:06:41 GMT 2000:

". I wonder what would happen if a 9-year-old did crucify themself whilst wearing a crown of thorns."

He'd have trouble getting the last nail in.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Nov 3 12:07:35 GMT 2000:

"Should The Bible Be Banned?" by 80s indie heroes McCarthy poses a similar question.


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Posted By 'PJ' on Fri Nov 3 12:10:32 GMT 2000:


>He'd have trouble getting the last nail in.


He'd probably stick them in his hands and feet first, and then just throw himself at the cross. That's how i'd do it...


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Posted By 'Radiator Head Child' on Fri Nov 3 17:45:01 GMT 2000:

Disturbing stuff, maybe I should take home ec instead...


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Fri Nov 3 18:04:34 GMT 2000:

>"Should The Bible Be Banned?" by 80s indie heroes McCarthy poses a similar question.

An early incarnation of Stereolab, trivia shits.


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