Jonathan Meades Posted Sat Oct 7 21:39:03 BST 2000 by 'Al'

He's on a not particularly good mortgage ad at the moment, but the stuff he's done for BBC2 is some of the most original TV I've ever seen. 'Further Abroad' and 'Even Further Abroad' were excellent - and a repeat showing is long overdue. He also did a one off about Nazi architecture (no, really) which I'd love a copy of - or any of his stuff. As they used to say in Look In, what do other readers think?


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 21:45:31 BST 2000:

He's another one of those resonant voices I can't get out of my head and I have to imagine him shouting all my thoughts from too far away in a zeitgeisty prosey in a suit and sunglasses and a bit pudgey type way.


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Posted By george on Sat Oct 7 22:12:29 BST 2000:

Yes, I have seen that Mortgage advert.

*Further Abroad* and *Even Further Abroad* were superb programmes and I equally enjoyed his look at Nazi architecture. Meades has a dry critical style (as well as a voice) that seems to be all of his own. The last time I saw them, they were buried away on BBC2. (>>>mutters that next time, he'll record them<<<)

The broadcasts I particulary enjoyed were (and this is by no means a definitive list):

Golf - because I agree with his apparent loathing of the sport - his descriptions (paraphrased, because I haven't seen the programmes for a long time) of parts of the Home Counties being taken over by Planet Golf.

Remember the future? - Terminator parody, and the Tony Benn-o-meter.

The Fens - if just for the closing images of different *charachters* in procession heading towards Ely Cathedral.


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Posted By 'dey' on Sat Oct 7 22:15:15 BST 2000:

I enjoyed them programs, though all I can really remember is "thjis is not a pipe" and the sneezing-into-a-hankie-and-finding-something-incongruous-in-it bits. because I was quite young.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 22:16:12 BST 2000:

fudge.


that was me.


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Posted By 'Al' on Sat Oct 7 22:18:47 BST 2000:

The one on caravans was really good, too. The thing about Meades is that he can take any subject and make it completely fascinating. He constantly borders on the pretentious, but actually never is. His style is apparently ironic, but is intrinsically sincere. If he says he loves caravan parks he means it - he's not just trying to be wacky.

With you all the way on the golf thing, George. Have you seen Michael Douglas' D-Fens' spectacular rant about golf in 'Falling Down'?


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Posted By 'Pint Of Mild' on Sat Oct 7 22:19:56 BST 2000:

They were terrific, and Even Further was repeated last year. On a Saturday afternoon at 5pm. Except for the last one, which was at 11:30pm on a Tuesday. Gits. I only managed to tape the last one.

Does he write for a newspaper? If not, what does he do when not on TV?


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 22:22:34 BST 2000:

I'm pretty sure his day job is as a restaurant critic.


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Posted By 'Pint Of Mild' on Sat Oct 7 22:23:21 BST 2000:

Thinking about it, it was repeated early this year. Not that it makes any diff.


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Posted By 'Pint' on Sat Oct 7 22:24:01 BST 2000:

For whom?


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Posted By 'Al' on Sat Oct 7 22:32:38 BST 2000:

JM has written in papers - I read a very good article by him in The Observer once. Trouble is, I can't remember for the life of me what it was about.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 22:32:42 BST 2000:

Meades writes for the sunday times style magazine, iirc.


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Posted By Dr. Hackenbush on Sun Oct 8 13:56:24 BST 2000:

Yep, he was restaurant critic for the times and also wrote an excellent novel called "Pompey".


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Posted By 'Jon' on Sun Oct 8 17:53:19 BST 2000:

I couldn't be bothered to read through all that lot, however -

He published a collection of his journalism up to 1990 called "Peter Knows What Dick Wants", which I never bought but read most of it in various bookshops (look, I was a student). It was brilliant, and well worth the price I didn't pay just for the excellent essay about poison-pen letters (they come in epidemics in southern England, apparently). And there was an interesting piece about travellers. And an attack on the novels of Frederic Raphael, which is great, because FR is a total cunt, as any educated person knows.

He also wrote a collection of short stories called "Filthy English", which I once saw a copy of in a 2nd-hand shop in Greenwich, and he did that thing for BBC2 about brummies. And he went to RADA, but I don't think he's ever acted.


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Posted By george on Sun Oct 8 20:09:00 BST 2000:

Oh yeah, the caravans one, wasn't that the one were there was an end shot of cliffs on the south coast, then endless rows of caravans inserted?

I dug out my copy of *Falling Down* and zipped forward the Country Club Scene. Wonderful. (Goes out and shoots Golf Buggy).


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Posted By 'Al' on Sun Oct 8 22:59:11 BST 2000:

"Now you're gonna die. Here. In those stupid pants."

What a great movie!


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Posted By Justin on Sun Oct 8 23:20:08 BST 2000:

He also did that rarest of things - a good edition of "J'Accuse" for C4's Without Walls on vegetarians. Actually, it was priceless, and I was one at the time.

Love him, anyway. Another Further Abroad series, please.


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Posted By 'Al' on Sun Oct 8 23:22:45 BST 2000:

>He also did that rarest of things - a good edition of "J'Accuse" for C4's Without Walls

And we know what the other one was, right Just?
"9.02 - BASTARD!"


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Posted By george on Mon Oct 9 00:13:22 BST 2000:

Jon, in the programme about brummies, he did the joke about the brummie lorry driver who has to go to London.

Al, yes, Falling Down is a superb film. Almost seems to have been forgotten in the past couple of years.


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Posted By 'Tamar' on Mon Oct 9 21:59:36 BST 2000:

Meades is a God. It's a fact.

But the best bit in Falling Down is the fast food restaurant.


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Posted By 'Mike J' on Tue Oct 10 16:16:18 BST 2000:

>He also did that rarest of things - a good edition of "J'Accuse" for C4's Without Walls on vegetarians. Actually, it was priceless, and I was one at the time.

Ah yes - I knew there was something needling me about Meades, who generally I like. That 'J'Accuse' programme infuriated me at the time, because his wholly negative personal experience of vegetarians seemed to have less to do with those he knew abstaining from meat and more to do with them being wankers. One of those 'they're like this' and 'they say this' and 'they're always doing this' diatribes which failed to strike a single right note.

And yes, I'm a veggie.


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Posted By 'Anonymous' on Tue Oct 10 22:20:23 BST 2000:

I'm surprised you managed the effort of typing so many letters.











Only joking


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Posted By 'Mike J' on Wed Oct 11 12:13:04 BST 2000:

>I'm surprised you managed the effort of typing so many letters.

Was that aimed at me, anon? Nice one. Actually, now you mention it I do feel a tad run down. Nothing like a big juicy steak to get the blood pumping, eh?

>Only joking

'Only'? You're being hard on yourself.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Wed Oct 11 14:13:39 BST 2000:

I just had a quick trot round a couple of on-line bookshops I know of. Most of Meades' stuff is out-of-print, they don't even list a copy of PKWDW. But if you ever see it going 2nd-hand, get it. I will.

Since my posting I've remembered it has a very good tribute to Joe Orton in it.

Anyhow, the booksites did reveal that he has a new book due out soon called "Encyclopedia Of Myself".


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Posted By Beccy on Sat Oct 14 15:22:35 BST 2000:

I was at school with his daughters. Fascinating I'm sure.


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Posted By Mogwai on Sat Oct 14 16:36:27 BST 2000:

'Pompey' is a dizzying book. Bloody marvellous, and expensive, too, as it means that I've now got to go and seek out everything else the bugger's done. Very very good.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Sun Oct 15 13:34:11 BST 2000:

"I was at school with his daughters"

I had the idea he was gay.


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Posted By One Day Soon on Mon Oct 16 13:22:07 BST 2000:

Have you noticed he plays all the people in the background in that advert (old lady etc.)? What a versatile man.


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Posted By 'jason hazeley' on Wed Oct 25 10:25:15 BST 2000:

he's not gay. he's got a girlfriend who also works in newspapers. i snogged her once in the back of a vauxhall. (not a lie.)

j xxx


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Posted By 'Anonymous' on Wed Oct 25 10:31:44 BST 2000:

Cor.


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Posted By 'Anonymous' on Thu Oct 26 10:40:57 BST 2000:

He's not gay but he is a cuckold.


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