Blatant Self-Promotion Posted Fri Oct 6 16:20:58 BST 2000 by 'Phil'

I would like to plug my website:

The Container of Things
http://www.alderman49.freeserve.co.uk

That is all.



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Posted By 'tired of names' on Fri Oct 6 16:38:56 BST 2000:

While we're about it. Let's compile a definitive list of web sites created by Forum users. We know about TJ and the splendid Paintbox. Jon - are u involved in one? Suii? Ewar?


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Posted By 'Jon' on Fri Oct 6 16:48:06 BST 2000:

No, but I think Dr. Hackenbush has one. And don't forget the inimitable kinder surprise and her Russell Peters site (dunno if it still exists).

Richard Herring has his own site as well:

www.leeandherring.com


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Posted By Ewar Woowar on Fri Oct 6 16:55:46 BST 2000:

Here it comes...


Wait for it...


Any moment now...


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Posted By 'Paul ' on Fri Oct 6 17:00:51 BST 2000:

In keeping with the spirit of random plugs- watch Right to Reply tonight on Channel Four.

At 7.30pm. And a bit (the news is running over).


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Posted By 'namesick' on Fri Oct 6 17:01:55 BST 2000:

http://www.cyberturf.com/amazing


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Posted By 'Pete' on Fri Oct 6 21:29:37 BST 2000:

Dunno where she's vanished off to, but Suiii had at least 8 last time I checked.


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Posted By Dr. Hackenbush on Fri Oct 6 23:40:59 BST 2000:

I don't have one yet - I just appear on other people's for money.


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Posted By 'Mark J' on Sat Oct 7 00:15:16 BST 2000:

Hasn't been updated for ages - will be soon, though - but it kinda has a naive 'charm':

www.gamebroth.co.uk


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Posted By 'James' on Sat Oct 7 00:47:29 BST 2000:

www.radiohaha.co.uk
And the forthcoming RDN online tutorial on internet use in the history and philosophy of science.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 13:44:28 BST 2000:

Oh, I love you all so much.

http://www.subbes.nu/

Apparently, I'm "going to be a writer". I always thought I was going to be a nuisance, and I'm not sure i can change my plans in such a short space of time.


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Sat Oct 7 14:02:25 BST 2000:

You certainly are skilled at intertwining praise and modesty of yourself. And it's all so uncalculated.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 14:42:55 BST 2000:

*raises eyebrows*

Err... look, if you're gonig to hit me again, I can stop being nice in an instant. I'd really rather not, if it's all the same to you.


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Sat Oct 7 15:23:10 BST 2000:


>Err... look, if you're gonig to hit me again, I can stop being nice in an instant.

Does that mean you require hot water to release your cordialities? I'm not saying there's any significance but I'm sure there is a holistic horse treatment for bowel stagnance which requires much the same method.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 20:08:02 BST 2000:

Usually the done thing in this situation is to post anonymously, but I don't like that kind of thing so I'll try a different approach. There has been one website posted in this topic that is the most incredible pile of self-indulgent bollocks I've ever clapped eyes on. Instead of naming it and then posting anonymously to avoid becoming terribly unpopular, I'll just not say which site I mean. Phew, think I got away with it.


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Posted By 'Phil' on Sat Oct 7 21:30:22 BST 2000:

>There has been one website posted in this >topic that is the most incredible pile of >self-indulgent bollocks I've ever clapped >eyes on.

Shit! I've been rumbled...Time to launch into a lengthy Dan L style self-justifying rant. No, I can't be arsed.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 21:39:20 BST 2000:

Okay, *apart* from that one!


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 22:24:02 BST 2000:

*smiles*

I know. Aren't I a terrible, terrible person? with an ego you could prop a large building up with?


*shrugs*
No-one's making you read it. If you don't like that sort of thing, then you can go back to reading Guardian Online. I know you do.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 22:40:40 BST 2000:

Oh, I've just realised that Ewar knew I was going to post the link, the darling. I'm nothing if not predictable in this respect, so I shall now go back to musing on "what I picked out of my navel today". Good constructive crisitscism, of course.... except that it wasn't constructive in the least. Maybe a suggestion would have fulfilled the other half of the phrase.

[though it'll sound like i've stolen dan l's mindset, i really don't care so much what you think of it. You didn't like it, so you're never going to read it again and I don't have to worry about what you think of it. I'll carry on doing what makes me happy. Though the critiscism would have been better taken through a private channel, i suppose the complete lack of red-name-mail-links made that impossible.]


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 22:48:18 BST 2000:

So you're quite certain I mean you then?


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 22:48:37 BST 2000:

Guardian online?


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 22:57:52 BST 2000:

I'm pretty sure. Who else could you have meant, after all? Who else here would be stupid enough to think that you could take a look at something I've spent months working on and not dismiss it as "the most incredible pile of self-indulgent bollocks I've ever clapped eyes on"?

Fine, I'll do a self-justification-thingy. I want to be a writer. I want to write well, and unless I push myself to write every day there's NO WAY I'll ever get there. There's also no way I'll make myself write every day unless there's some other reason to do it, like say the fact that a couple of my friends read it, and generally bully me into posting things if I'm a day late or so.

Fine, mister Respected Intelligent Forum Poster, you don't like what I choose to do with my time, money and copy of notepad. Doesn't mean you have to read it, nor make comments like those.

Yes, guardian online. You sound like a Grauniad reader.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 23:05:08 BST 2000:

So, let's get this straight, you're 100% convinced it must be your site then?


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 23:10:22 BST 2000:

Who else's could it be? Yes, your (& Ewar's) comments have convinced me. Congratulations.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sat Oct 7 23:11:30 BST 2000:

I'm saying nothing!


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Posted By 'Al' on Sat Oct 7 23:17:37 BST 2000:

I don't think Peter means your site Sub. How can you be so sure he does? Have you looked at the others? Besides, Peter O has been pretty damning about a lot of things. It's his way.

Anyway, me and Justin read it and liked it. You didn't seem too bothered.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 23:19:58 BST 2000:

Your silence speaks volumes. All the other sites have some "purpose", and mine is, quite obviously, complete bollocks!


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Posted By subbes on Sat Oct 7 23:43:52 BST 2000:

Um, I've read the others. All very funny and there for a "purpose", as opposed to my "bollocks" tag on the http:// wall.

I'll get used to getting responses like Peter's. It just hurts that something I've spent so long working on every day can be tossed into that dustbin by someone whose opinion I hold in such regard!


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Posted By 'Al' on Sun Oct 8 00:11:48 BST 2000:

I read the first. No disrespect to Phil, but it wasn't that funny. Whose silence speaks volumes anyway? I liked your stuff, honest.

Anyway writing about your life is self-indulgent by definition. It's like that Sean Hughes bit about critics slagging his one-man show for being self-indulgent: "The dancing girls just didn't show."

I think if you look at Peter O' s response to you he seems to be hinting that it wasn't your stuff he was on about. At least it seemed that way to me...


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Posted By subbes on Sun Oct 8 00:26:14 BST 2000:

> Whose silence speaks volumes anyway?

Ohanra-bloody-hanrao-bloody-han's.


>I think if you look at Peter O' s response to you he seems to be hinting that it wasn't your stuff he was on about. At least it seemed that way to me...

Fat bloody chance, he's trying to dig the knife a little deepr by being all wide eyed and innocent.

And now I'm in an absolutely foul mood, iI should head somewhere where there's nothing I can damage myself with.


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Posted By 'Gee' on Sun Oct 8 03:24:24 BST 2000:

I read Candlelight (II) subbes and liked the bit about fishnets, but my girlfriend wouldn't let me read any more. I'll read more when she's out.


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Posted By subbes on Sun Oct 8 04:54:41 BST 2000:

*laughs*

My hosting won't let me have any "adult" content on the site. That's being hidden somewhere else.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sun Oct 8 10:45:21 BST 2000:

Can't see how it matters what I think at this stage. You are now so excited by the role of artistic martyr that you aren't going to pass it up, even if I claimed I hadn't been refering to your site.

Still, the more times you heap abuse on it yourself, the more well-intentioned men will dive to your rescue!

Have you ever read Adrian Mole?


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Posted By 'Phil' on Sun Oct 8 11:23:37 BST 2000:

>I read the first. No disrespect to Phil, but it wasn't that funny.

Not funny? NOT FUNNY?! Well, okay. I accept that. I'll chuck it in the bin and start again. But don't think I'm getting rid of the Jesus Quiz.


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Posted By 'the man with a name' on Sun Oct 8 11:40:44 BST 2000:

Good 4 u Phil. Stick up 4 what u believe in.
I though the Jesus quiz was pretty funny, if a little derivative (Viz's questionaires).


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Posted By 'Al' on Sun Oct 8 12:11:11 BST 2000:

>>I read the first. No disrespect to Phil, but it wasn't that funny.
>
>Not funny? NOT FUNNY?! Well, okay. I accept that. I'll chuck it in the bin and start again. But don't think I'm getting rid of the Jesus Quiz.

No, no, no. I didn't say (or mean) that it wasn't funny. It just wasn't *that* funny. Anyway - I haven't made, and have no plans to make, my own website. Good for you for having a go.


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Posted By 'Gee' on Sun Oct 8 15:21:56 BST 2000:

I'll be happy subbes with a few more references to fishnets and boots. Just in case you're wondering, I have studied literature at univeristy. I studied the 19th Century American novel but I got very little pleasure from Uncle Tom's Cabin - and neither did the luckless, Jesus-loving Tom. Did it help to start the Civil War? No.


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Posted By subbes on Sun Oct 8 16:01:34 BST 2000:

>Can't see how it matters what I think at this stage. You are now so excited by the role of artistic martyr that you aren't going to pass it up, even if I claimed I hadn't been refering to your site.

But you're not going to "claim" you weren't referring to it, because you can't. Because you were. There's nothing else up there you _could_ have been referring to. Animal cards? Lee & Herring scripts? An AP-stylee webzine? All very valid and interesting.

>Still, the more times you heap abuse on it yourself, the more well-intentioned men will dive to your rescue!

Oh, piss off you stirrer. Take your pathetic need to get a response away, before you get a response you can't handle.


>Have you ever read Adrian Mole?

Yes. Was my favourite book for a while, before I caught the sarcasm and started to notice it was so completely and utterly wrong with very little redeeming humour, unlike what the critisc told me. Last time i listen to them.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sun Oct 8 16:24:19 BST 2000:

Whatever you say, "Mole."

Some advice: if you want to give the impression I haven't got to you, the best thing would be not to quote me on your website. Oh... whoops.


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Sun Oct 8 17:01:44 BST 2000:

subbes did you used to think YOU were your own harshest critic?


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Posted By subbes on Sun Oct 8 17:20:55 BST 2000:

>Some advice: if you want to give the impression I haven't got to you, the best thing would be not to quote me on your website. Oh... whoops.

I'm not trying to give the impression you haven't got to me. Because you have, and stuff.


And no, kinder. I've got far harser critics than myself.


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Posted By 'Peter O' on Sun Oct 8 17:56:05 BST 2000:

>I'm not trying to give the impression you haven't got to me. Because you have, and stuff.

Yes, I know, it's the opposite - you are trying to give the impression I've got to you, in line with the whole martyr persona, thus giving you a platform on which to defend your website from "harsh criticism." In reality I've just given you a bit of rope and you've not only tied the noose yourself, you've put up a big sign saying "See the tortured artist get hung!"


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Posted By subbes on Sun Oct 8 17:59:57 BST 2000:

*blink*
*blink*


...No.


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Posted By subbes on Sun Oct 8 18:01:22 BST 2000:

> in line with the whole martyr persona

You have a very bizarre view of me. May I suggest a pair of glasses and removing your head from your rectum?


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Posted By 'Jon' on Mon Oct 9 11:55:54 BST 2000:

Just had a 2nd look at this strand, my how it's grown.

Poor old subbes. Is kinder still flogging that dead horse joke?


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Posted By Suiii on Mon Oct 9 12:43:46 BST 2000:

Ooooooh webshites! I like the animal cards thing, very 80's. And Pete is right, I have maaaany webshites but none of them good enough for the gaze of the public, my tribute to Susan Kennedy from Neighbours has been up and running for a year now, and I'm still receiving odd emails to this day!


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Posted By Mr Griffiths on Mon Oct 9 13:24:49 BST 2000:

>Ooooooh webshites! I like the animal cards thing, very 80's.

Ta Suiii. It's very 80's cos I'm a very old man.


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Posted By 'All' on Mon Oct 9 13:27:09 BST 2000:

Suiii is back!

Huzzah


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Posted By Suiii on Mon Oct 9 13:32:18 BST 2000:

*laughs*

And I have Benylin for all!

Those animal cards remind me of the ones you could collect from cereal packets when I was a child. All I need now is a website about those Back To the Future mini comics from Shreddies.


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Mon Oct 9 15:03:23 BST 2000:

>Just had a 2nd look at this strand, my how it's grown.
>
>Poor old subbes. Is kinder still flogging that dead horse joke?

The horse is simply a common ground on which subbes and myself have engaged in some very sparkling conversations.

But don't fret Jon, not everyone possesses the gift of excelling socially.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Mon Oct 9 15:59:20 BST 2000:

Is that your excuse?


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Mon Oct 9 16:25:21 BST 2000:

Jon, you see you and me have different effects on the humankind. You, if you don't mind me saying are content to merely skim the surface and force those you are conversing with to recline only to expose themselves with the superficial banalities we all cling to. Whereas I on the other hand enable them to come forth with magnitude unleashing their inner self and more often than not resulting in them calling me a 'bitch' or indeed telling me to 'just fuck off.' A revelation I feel. If only more people realised that making horse puns can liberate an inhibited soul.

I live in hope for you Jon.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Mon Oct 9 16:46:04 BST 2000:

What you mean is, you piss people off.


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Mon Oct 9 16:58:29 BST 2000:

No, I just seem to have a blasphemous effect on subbes.


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Posted By 'Jon' on Mon Oct 9 17:05:05 BST 2000:

I think it's only subbes you insult when you address her, not God Himself.


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Posted By 'kinder surprise' on Mon Oct 9 17:30:55 BST 2000:

Oh I wish someone had told me this earlier. Then I wouldn't have gone to such bother.


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Posted By 'paul twist' on Mon Oct 9 19:49:01 BST 2000:

Suiii, you're not the one behind http://www.susankennedy.co.uk are you?! I stumbled across that once just by typing the URL in to see if it existed... I thought it was excellent! You must update it!


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Posted By Suiii on Mon Oct 9 19:56:01 BST 2000:

*laughs* Rumbled! Yeah it needs an update alright. It was created in a moment of extreme drunkenness and has changed my life completely! Heheh, well, in that before I made it I was never threatened with a C and D, never asked for videos of spanking, and never given intricate detail about the sex lives of Aussie tv stars!


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Posted By subbes on Tue Oct 10 01:34:45 BST 2000:

http://www.subbes.nu/ is dead and gone owing to something entirely different from this discussion.

To everyone that took the time to read: thankyou.


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Posted By Ailie on Tue Oct 10 13:16:37 BST 2000:

>I thought it was excellent! You must update it!

And I second that!


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Posted By Suiii on Tue Oct 10 13:25:20 BST 2000:

Heheh, I need to wait for Pearson TV to update their site, so I can "borrow" some piccies!


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Posted By 'A K Garner' on Sat Oct 14 02:35:33 BST 2000:

Only under construction:

http://web.searchalot.com/home/gee/showbiz/welcome.htm


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Posted By 'Richard' on Mon Oct 16 17:15:47 BST 2000:

http://members.fortunecity.com/rickyb


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Posted By 'TVOD' on Tue Oct 17 10:56:16 BST 2000:

I'm going to promote myself.

I am now the king.


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