>Oh, this will sound weird but can anyone tell me what the theme tune to the 1993 relaunch of BN was (the corporate look one) - jazzy sax or BBC horns?
I suppose you could call it Jazzy Sax - it was similar in style to the other revamps. I remember getting up before 7am to watch the new look - I didn't bother with Business Breakfast as I thought it probably wouldn't change - I was wrong. Anyway, it was a bit of a shambles in places with Nick Witchell and Jill Dando looking at the wrong cameras or wrong computer graphics that weren't really there. I don't really like virtual studios - good to see that MOTD have ditched theirs.
Back to the new Breakfast and the snatches of the tune heard on the trailer sound very BBC World-y. I wonder will they have a countdown to the hour? And I wonder will Weekend 24 get a new look too?
The best Breakfast news title sequence was in about 1991. agree?
> I don't really like virtual studios - good to see that MOTD have ditched theirs.
I very much dislike the BBC's virtual Olympics set (as shown in the titles). Looks like they made it during the Atlanta games!
>Back to the new Breakfast and the snatches
of the tune heard on the trailer sound very BBC World-y. I wonder will they have a countdown to the hour? And I wonder will Weekend 24 get a new look too?
Isn't Breakfast going to be shown 7 days on News 24 though?
>The best Breakfast news title sequence was in about 1991. agree?
Yes, so graceful, not brash at all. THe full version was even better.
>Isn't Breakfast going to be shown 7 days on News 24 though?
That's what I thought, but the listings for BBC NEWS 24 and BBC TWO for Saturday week still give it as Weekend 24.
I'm looking forward to the widescreening of BBC News generally.
The '91 one: one with the 3D BBC and the rotating segments of the clock, right?
But what was in the 'extended' version? I cannae remember.....
>But what was in the 'extended' version? I cannae remember.....
The extended version was used when there was a major news story such as the Gulf War. It was basically about 30 secs before you see the world from the north pole and it rotates and stuff. It was often accompanied by slow-motion pictures. It was also used after the revamp, such as for D-Day.
General elections were usually a good bet for the extended version of the 86-97 theme as well.
I liked the new Breakfast, but the music and graphics didn't quite live up to previous heights. However, if they do decide to bring back the concept of the extended title sequence (and the US election in November was always a occasion which merited it in the past) they could use the countdown music I suppose...
And three cheers for the lovely Moira!!!
And I new it wouldn't be that different in content from the old programme!!!
Meanwhile what about the new weather graphics? And where was the SVC title sequence?!
>I liked the new Breakfast, but the music and graphics didn't quite live up to previous heights.
I think it is a big pile of poo. It is a GMTV rip-off. I only watched from 7.55 and saw them at a desk, but after 8 they were all on sofas apart from Moira. The new weather graphics are rubbish, having Isobel Lang out in the cold is a silly idea. It is a real dumb-down of both Breakfast News and News 24.
As for the weekend - they certainly won't be using the studio on Sunday as it is used for Brekkie with Frost. I don't think they will use it Saturday either. We'll see whether they use the same titles though.
<Horrible thought> They aren't changing all the news programmes, are they? I know they're all going widescreen which will be good, but I hope they don't change the music on either BBC ONE or NEWS 24.
Are there any other changes to BBC Presentation, by the way?
I think you're being a bit unfair!
I watched from 6 to 8.30 this morning. Moira handles the actual news bulletin on the half hour, while Sophie and Jeremy presented from a desk. They did the in-depth items until 8 when they moved to the sofa and did some of the lighter material (a little like the post 8.30 slot during the last look).
This is similar to what was proposed in the BBC News review (almost two years ago!). It said that viewer consultation wanted more news, sport and business during the early part of the morning, but that the lighter items worked well towards the end.
As for splitting the bulletins from the longer features, I'm happy with this. The bulletin sequences are longer than before (remember the awful 1 minute long summaries on the half hour previously?!), and the special rolling news bits between 6 and 7 were interesting as well.
Isobel on the South Bank seemed a little unnecessary, but they often send either the weather person or the sports presenter out. I liked the more regular business bulletins after 7, and Declan's share reports as well.
Generally, I was very impressed with the new format!
>Are there any other changes to BBC Presentation, by the way?
The One O'Clock news and lunchtime regional news will be merging (like the Six), so I'm expecting regional clocks (for England) and new announcements.
>I think you're being a bit unfair!
Maybe, I might get round to seeing more of the pre-8am bit, though that would involve getting up earlier and I had already got up early to be downstairs for 8am!wishy-washy. It should have a weird, but upbeat signature tune. I once tried (and failed) to do a midi file of the Breakfast Time music. I found that is switched from 4/4 to 7/4 to 13/8 or something stupid like that. The final Breakfast news was 11/8 or something weird.
>I once tried (and failed) to do a midi file of the Breakfast Time music. I found that is switched from 4/4 to 7/4 to 13/8 or something stupid like that.
I don't know my musical terminology, but the movement from the sinister bells chiming in the original theme to the bouncy jingle repeated throughout the programme is a very convoluted piece indeed.
>The One O'Clock news and lunchtime regional news will be merging (like the Six), so I'm expecting regional clocks (for England) and new announcements.
I wonder will Newsnight change? The current titles date back to January 1999. Newsnight is going widescreen - I wonder if On the Record and Breakfast with Frost are too?
Oh, and I'm just watching the web feed of the BBC News and One and the BBC ONE SouthEast Clock is showing in 14:9 - are all idents going this way on analogue now, or just regional ones?
>Oh, and I'm just watching the web feed of the BBC News and One and the BBC ONE SouthEast Clock is showing in 14:9 - are all idents going this way on analogue now, or just regional ones?
I saw Newsroom South East this morning and the whole thing was in 14:9... Hmm. So much for widescreen.
I expect the new NSE and London Live will be 16:9
http://www.theonion.com/onion3634/news_at_noon_set.html
Sorry guys, it just reminded me of you!
The new show certainly looks good but the more laid back approach after 8.00 doesn't really sit well with the rest of News 24, with the interviews with Holby City and so on.
The new weather maps look superb, just like an aerial photograph, but the widescreen-isation of BBC1's news looks a bit of a botch job to me.
but the widescreen-isation of BBC1's news looks a bit of a botch job to me.
It isn't bad, apart for the news picture beside the presenter. And why do they have to put www.bbc.co.uk/news below BBC NEWS every time the news picture is shown?
This is about GMTV:
Charlie Whelan was interviewed by GMTV at about 6.30am on the day it was revealed that Gordon Brown was getting married.
He said how pleased he was. How much he liked Sarah. How they were a happy couple, and had lived together happily for two years.
After it went out, he got a frantic call from Gordon Brown's office, asking him to redo the interview, but not to mention that Gordon and Sarah had been living together.
Gordon's mother didn't know that and would be horrified about such behaviour.
I just hope she doesn't read this.
Sorry, but I have to disagree with anyone who actually thinks Breakfast is a news programme!
I mean, they have the same reports which are not in-depth at all, they repeat them every 30 mins, its so boring!
Isobel should be inside the studio! Not stuck on the South Bank! - suppose it was just a cost cutting exercise, not having to build an extension to the studio (which does look nice!)
Perhaps, if they had kept the name Brekafast News and then told Moria (however good she is, she still is rather boring) to clear off back to News24.
Given them that nice studio everything would have been alright?
But alas, no, and the GMTV bit after 8 is bollocks, who can the BBC interview? - Holby City cast (Thrill!)
God knows why they didnt just give BN a new ident and studio :(
But Sky Sunrise is better than I thought :)
>It isn't bad, apart for the news picture beside the presenter. And why do they have to put www.bbc.co.uk/news below BBC NEWS every time the news picture is shown?
Dear BBC
Could you send me a magnifying glass cos I can't actually read that text underneath the words BBC NEWS on your news programmes, cos on my 14" TV, it is far far too small.
Yrs
>Dear BBC
>Could you send me a magnifying glass cos I can't actually read that text underneath the words BBC NEWS on your news programmes, cos on my 14" TV, it is far far too small.
Don't do that - they'll make it bigger!
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