Harry Enfield - I'm going off him by the second Posted Mon Sep 11 11:18:03 BST 2000 by Jake Thingy

Presumably, he's doing the new show for Sky so that as few people as possible will realise Paul Whitehouse and Kathy Burke have been carrying him for years. I was in a pub last week and a trailer for the thing came on, including him doing David Beckham...hmmm, he hasn't been watching the Alistair McGowan show, obviously. And in his columns in the Torygraph, he's reflecting his original background, getting more and more like that awful father of his.


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Posted By Jon on Mon Sep 11 11:27:17 BST 2000:

Seeing as this is a strand about Harry Enfield, I think it should have a pointless and annoying catchphrase that all contributers should use. I say "Off by the second!"

Off by the second!


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Posted By PJ on Mon Sep 11 12:05:17 BST 2000:

What about the "Chris Great" character (based on Chirs evans, in case you could gues from that complicated name)? Now there's an original, though out, not 5 years past it use by date character, and no mistake. Nice one Harry.
What's that catchphrase again?

Anyway, isn't there another sitcom on tonight. Something about pubs, i don't know..


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Posted By Jon on Mon Sep 11 12:21:27 BST 2000:

R. Herring said somewhere or other that TGP had to be shown on Sky first, but then they could offer it to a terrestrial. So Enfield's series will probably be the mainstay of BBC1's autumn 2001 season.


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Posted By PJ on Mon Sep 11 12:24:11 BST 2000:

It's supposed to be full of naughty words that Enfield couldn't possibly have got away with in the Beeb. He's cheeky like that, you know


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Posted By Jon on Mon Sep 11 12:34:40 BST 2000:

"It's supposed to be full of naughty words that Enfield couldn't possibly have got away with in the Beeb."

So he's allowed to say them on Sky, because no one's watching?


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Posted By Jake Thingy on Mon Sep 11 13:08:36 BST 2000:

In SOTCAA-speak, he's got pleb appeal.


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Posted By Justin on Mon Sep 11 17:28:06 BST 2000:

Radio Times says a lot of his new show is "not as funny as it thinks it is".

Now, I wonder if they'd been that candid if they were previewing his most recent pisspoor BBC1 series. Thought not....


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Posted By Jake Thingy on Mon Sep 11 17:36:38 BST 2000:

Radio Times-speak, dear oh dear. "A good, old-fashioned sitcom", "this may turn out to be a slow-burning drama", "for those not used to it, this anarchic mixture takes some swallowing" - JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!! I know the Corpses (RIP) did a great job pointing out the triteness of all these phrases, but sadly it hasn't or won't stop the buggers using them!


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Posted By PJ on Mon Sep 11 17:50:52 BST 2000:

"Now, I wonder if they'd been that candid if they were previewing his most recent pisspoor BBC1 series. Thought not...."

You sound a bit too much like private eye there, Justin - you want to watch how you use the word 'pisspoor'.
The whole 'preview tapes were not available thing' is probably the most annoying RT phrase- why don't they just lie instead - no one would tell the difference between them and the other reviews anyway


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Posted By Christopher Lyons on Mon Sep 11 18:40:59 BST 2000:

I learnt today that four of Enfield's new characters were created by Sun readers. This is true.


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Posted By Jake Thingy on Mon Sep 11 18:48:55 BST 2000:

Like I said - pleb appeal. And to think that the same paper was calling him a Marxist millionaire once.


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Posted By Suiii on Mon Sep 11 21:36:57 BST 2000:

Enfield said in TV Times (I think) "I thought, now that Kathy and Paul have left to go and do their own thing, that the show should have a different sort of pace now, hence the move to Sky"

Awww Enfield, BBC tell you to fuck off did they??


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Posted By Al on Mon Sep 11 23:18:43 BST 2000:

Enfield's new show *is* utterly awful. The funniest person on it was Jay Kay out of Jamiroquai. Yes he uses rude words but to no comic effect whatsoever. The characters appear to be tedious distillations of the worst excesses of his previous 2nd division characters. And I thought he was funny once, really funny. It's a tragedy. No irony - it really is. Still at least Kevin wasn't in it - the character that ate its creator's talent. Anyone agree?


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Posted By george on Mon Sep 11 23:27:21 BST 2000:

Tuned in this evening. Mr Enfield is running on empty, and who told him to do impressions? Anyway, I'll write more tomorrow, and after I have another look at it.


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Posted By paul twist on Tue Sep 12 00:25:16 BST 2000:

I think Enfield should've scrapped Kevin after he lost his virginity. It seemed like that was the plan, and it would've stopped the character getting (even more) tired. Still, then there wouldn't have been the money-spinning movie, would there.

I haven't seen the movie though, so for all I know it could be good. Haven't seen the Sky 1 show either, though I will catch the repeat. I also haven't seen TGP, but will watch a videoed copy in a few minutes. So, er, there.


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Posted By paul twist on Tue Sep 12 01:35:37 BST 2000:

Oh, and if the next series of Frasier employs the "it was all a dream!" device that Enfield used with Kevin I will lose my respect for that show, too.


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Posted By PJ on Tue Sep 12 01:45:19 BST 2000:

Laugh? No, not really. Harry appears to have forgotten about the Fast Show, and all the characters were substandard versions of things off that or his own characters.
The BBC are probably laughing thier heads off after watching that - but not in the right way obviously.
It would be wrong to base a judgement of a series on one episode.




Although its the same as everything Enfields ever done. Except with swearing


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Posted By Mogwai on Tue Sep 12 12:44:25 BST 2000:

Don't forget Enfield started off doing impressions for Spitting Image, although they did all sound mysteriously alike.


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Posted By Edwood Wardwood on Tue Sep 12 20:32:28 BST 2000:

Of course his embarrassing pharmacist ("Bet you really splattered the bowl") bears no resemblance whatsoever to John Cleese's embarrassing pharmacist (Right, who's got the pox? Who's got a boil on the bum?")

I'll still keep watching because there's not much else on.


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Posted By george on Wed Sep 13 00:22:46 BST 2000:

Unofficial Harry Enfield Review:

Without Whitehouse or Burke to carry him along Enfield looked a tad stranded at times. The pop graphic and dance muzak made it look trendy, although I found it stale in content - a case of papering the cracks. The characters were very below par and poorly executed, and the sketches were either badly written, performed or both, and it really appeared as a case of a man who had finally ran out of ideas. I can only honestly state that watching Barry Humphries as a Sir Les Patterson in an ad (during the break) for a fast food outlet outshone the entire programme.

Hmm, the chemist is a rip-off of Cleese, although I initially thought it looked a poor cross between Jurgen the German and the Fast Show rude tailors (i.e.: start normal then get more abrasive), with a bit of Arabella Weir's perfume counter lady for der accent. The other (fairly) obvious rip-off is Strange Bob. It would've been Ron Manager, but of course we can't do that (copyright) so instead he gets possessed, and talks in the same voice he used in the last BBC series as the football commentator interviewing Paul Whitehouse's Julio.

There was a whiff of re-heats cooking in the studio. The same voice used for the bickering couple is the same as the couple having sex being turned on by a broadsheet newspaper. Rodney Bond could have been one of The Bores.

The impressions were bad - I'd put Enfield well below Alistair McGowan in that respect, but hey, he used naughty words, and there were out-takes at the end, so it was good wasn't it?

No, it bloody well wasn't. I always force myself to be kind to new shows, and not fully judge them until after their run ends. But this was bad, very bad - However, I will (gulps) follow it through to the end of its run, in the hope that it might just improve.

I will keep you all informed.......


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Posted By PJ on Wed Sep 13 01:08:02 BST 2000:


>I will keep you all informed.......

Can i keep everyone ill informed, then? That Enfield hey, what a comedian! I thought i was actually watching David Beckham. Even if he does have a shaved head now! I recommend the show to everyone! 10 stars! Great! Wow! Err... great.


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Posted By george on Wed Sep 13 20:18:13 BST 2000:

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>>I will keep you all informed.......
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>Can i keep everyone ill informed, then? That Enfield hey, what a comedian! I thought i was actually watching David Beckham. Even if he does have a shaved head now! I recommend the show to everyone! 10 stars!

Great! Wow! Err... great.
>
>
>>>>>LOL!....actually PJ I was being optimistic......:o)


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