It's a pleasure to meet you, Mr Pertwee.

"Join uth nextht week on - WHODUNNIT!"

"Look out, Bwigadier! It'th a th-tegothauwwuth!"

"Klokeda partha mennin klatch, aroon, aroon, aroon..
Klokleda sheena terinatch, aroon, aroon, aroon...
Aroon, aroon, arrooo-ooon, aroon, aran, arooo-oon"

"Becauth they delight in deviouthneth, thatth why. Amutheth them, chucking uth in at the deep end, watching uth think or thwim"

"Thmith, Dr John Thmith"

Ah, Mith Thaw!

He really was a cunt in reality. Sorry to say it.

"Reality"? Bah!

Umberrrra , Superted!

Jon Pertwee?

A cunt?

<sniff>

He refused to sign a piccy for a wheelchair bound kid at a convention, because the photo had not been purchased off Pertwee's manager. He then asked for "the boy" to be removed. He may as well have kicked him out of his chair, given that the convention sponsored his charity!

He also lied about payments and gambled a cash advance away in the bar. After drinking so much he utterly forget he'd been paid. Then, and only then, did he go on stage.

Blimey!
Troughton on the other hand was a perfect gent when he signed autographs for me and my brother at a fair/fete thing about 20 years ago.

My life is in ruins.

Actually, there's only one Doctor who I'd expect to be lovely at all times in real life, and that's Colin Baker.

I don't know if he is or not, but I've heard good things.

All the others seem fine (the living ones anyway - I seeth, Sam D!). I have a huge story about Dr Who fans ruining Peter Davison's morning but it really would take forever to explain. Time slowed down in that room.

Unlike remarks on earlier threads, McCoy was a delight. Very likeable man and this was when I was young and thought most of his shows were shit. As you return to them you figure out what went wrong, if much at all.

I'd love to meet Colin. I remember flicking the Vs at Bonnie Langford when she did Peter Pan in panto. She swang around on a wire and sailed over to me - perfect opportunity to revenge her for 'Time & The Rani'!

Anybody involved in Time and the Rani deserves punishment.

Hunt them all down.

I've said this before, but here goes...John Nathan-Turner said around that time, "Doctor Who is like the Morecambe and Wise show - everyone wants to be on it!" The cynical might be tempted to reply that it was only like M & W in the sense that the "name" guests had been more famous in the 70's.

Was Tom Baker bad with fans?

There was that picture of him signing autographs when filming 'Android Invasion'. He seems quite reasonable and likeable in it.

Also...

it was mentioned on another starnd, I can't track it down, but someone complained about Baker scuppering an ad that would have featured all 5 doctors (and "The 5 Doctors"). But seeing as he gave 7 years to it (more than the others, you can understand he didn't want to get trapped in the role, and he did get breaks doing other stuff as a result ('Selling Hitler', that ep of Blackadder 2, and, er, other stuff). Which was reasonable enough. Let the guy alone, it was his career, Tim McInnerney quit doing Percy for Blackadder3 for the same reasons.

He's my favourite Dr, because he was the 1st one I saw, though I liked all the others except McCoy. But I think he was let down because the BBC didn't give a damn anymore, there was no money, no decent scripts, etc.

I think Tom Baker is very good with the fans actually. If you can, watch the video 'Doctor...Who On Earth Is Tom Baker?' and you'll get a good idea of just how much they mean to him.

I think it's just other actors and directors who he used to be incredibly, wonderfully rude to.

But then again, I've never met him. He apparently has a low boredom threshold, so it's best to entertain him in new and fascinating ways...

I met Tom Baker many years ago when I was just a work experience scrote at a BBC radio station. I'd wandered into the studio to get something (it wasn't on air at the time) and found myself face to face with a childhood hero. He was recording an interview about "An Inspector Calls" which was on at Theatr(e) Clwyd. He shook my hand and was terribly nice.

Oh yeah. And I heard a story about Jon Pertwee. When he was in Liverpool filming that "Doctor on call" mobile phone ad, he turned up in the bar of some hotel asking where he could get some coke. God bless him.

Are you sure it wasn't a hilarious misunderstanding, and he just wanted a sip of Pepsi?

<covers ears>

I'll not listen to this! Perters always seemed so lovely.

Admittedly it was a 2nd hand story told to me by a friend in Liverpool, but as the rugby song goes "I've no reason to suppose he lied......"

His name seems pretty untarnished to the general public, though.

Then again, they've all forgotten him now.

>His name seems pretty untarnished to the general public, though.
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It usually is with celebritites. But they're almost all coked-up, self-important, money-grabbing toejams. The rule tends to be: the nicer the public persona, the more of an ego-driven ballache they are in real life.

Erm, I reckon, anyway.

I'll have to put it to the test.

Next time I see Bonnie Langford I'll see if she gets agitated when I punch her in the face.

>Admittedly it was a 2nd hand story told to me by a friend in Liverpool, but as the rugby song goes "I've no reason to suppose he lied......"

Ever seen his appearance in The Goodies episode 'Wacky Wales' singing about rugby? Now that *was* fantastic.

>someone complained about Baker scuppering an ad that would have featured all 5 doctors (and "The 5 Doctors").

It was me, and I wasn't complaining, I spoke in his defense, or at the very least his defence... I say, fair play to Tom...

"The rule tends to be: the nicer the public persona, the more of an ego-driven ballache they are in real life."

It's certainly well-documented that Rex Harrison (of Dr. Dolittle fame) was a total bastard off-screen.

But does this imply that people with bad profiles (Evans, Ball, Tarrant) are really alright in real life? Surely not.

It must be: people who PORTRAY NASTY CHARACTERS are alright. Does anyone know if Roger Delgado was alright in real life, just to test the theory?

Or whoever played Davros? Incidentally, is there any truth in the story that Davros was based on famous philsopher Bertrand Russell.

I've always doubted it, since there are no photos of Russell in a motorised control-chair, nor any recordings of him expressing the desire to conquer the universe.

They were fighting the Kaleds in "Genesis". Then they became a race of pacifists in "The Dead Planet". Then they get back to fighting the Daleks in "Planet Of The Daleks". But where are they the rest of the time? And were they still living on Skaro all the while? And how come Skaro got blown up in that Sylvester McCoy Dalek story? What's all that about then? And....

>They were fighting the Kaleds in "Genesis". Then they became a race of pacifists in "The Dead Planet". Then they get back to fighting the Daleks in "Planet Of The Daleks". But where are they the rest of the time? And were they still living on Skaro all the while? And how come Skaro got blown up in that Sylvester McCoy Dalek story? What's all that about then? And....

Sorry, don't know - I'm sure someone else will though....
Don't know about the Davros thing either...

Roger Delgado was the epitome of kindness, sincerity and goodness in real life, everybody who worked with him loved him - a magazine of tributes was published about 8 or so years ago, I think by the people who created "The Frame", reprinting the 1971 "Terror of the Autons" Radio Times cover, but with "A Tribute to Roger Delgado" written in the original swirly Radio Times font (Baskerville I think), and it's jam-packed full of eulogies from former colleagues. John Levene's contribution is extremely moving, you can almost sense the tears flowing as he wrote it. Pertwee loved him too supposedly. Roger Delgado's death simply was the worst tragedy, I'm not talking just about "Who" here either - I'd love to have seen him do plays, or still be on TV today - imagine the sort of parts he'd be playing now...

Is Anthony Ainley still acting? I can imagine him with a successful theatre career.

The last time I saw Anthony Ainley was in a supermarket in Exeter.

He bought two bananas and a bottle of orange juice.

And yeah, it's awful that Roger Delgado was killed when he was pretty much the best thing in Who at the time, and he could have done so much more.

Explains why Season 11 was so crap though. They'd all just given up.

Which one was that? Name a story from it.

The Monster of Peladon.

Enough said, I feel.

So that would be the season:

The Time Warrior(4 eps)/ Invasion Of The Dinosaurs(6)/ Death To The Daleks(4)/ Monster Of Peladon(6)/ Planet Of The Spiders(6)

God! I can still remember after all these years.

Yeah, that's the one.

And I can honestly say that out of all that season, I didn't enjoy any stories.

>Yeah, that's the one.
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>And I can honestly say that out of all that season, I didn't enjoy any stories.

"The Time Warrior" is an entertaining romp I feel, but it doesn't stand up well to too many repeat viewings. Good cast, especially June Brown's turn as Lady Eleanor. "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" is also entertaining. If you overlook the laughable fx, the political stuff is amusing too, though it's two episodes too long. But I agree, in principal, season 11 is Pertwee's weakest, they really had all given up. My favourite is seaon 10, because I love "Carnival of Monsters", "The Three Doctors" & "The Green Death". A consistently entertaining season, perhaps not as gritty as its predecessors. My favourite Pertwee stories in their own right are "Inferno" & "Terror of the Autons".

Actually, I was also going to point out June Brown being brilliant in TTW, but thought that might lessen the impact of my scathing attack on the season.

It was scathing, wasn't it?

I did my best, didn't I?

My very best ever.

Pass me the box of Jana, I'm going to throw up

"If you overlook the laughable fx..."

I was goign to put "what was the laughable fix?", but I realise now you wrote "effects". However, you've just reminded me that I have no idea how Invasion of the Dinosaurs ends (I read the book when I was 7, have never seen the show). I remember it turns out the general is in on the conspiracy, and the plot is to take London back in time or something (why?) but I don't understand why they didn't choose a simpler method of seizing control of London than by setting a load of Dinosaurs loose in it. I mean, you wouldn't catch the Cybermen, the Nestenes or the Great Intelligence playing silly buggers like that.

Yes, anyway, could someone explain the denouement of that story, please?

Also, could someone lend me loads of DW vids because I seen very little of it apart from Key to time sequence onwards, when it was transmitted.

Nah, you don't want to watch Doctor Who, it's rubbish.

The Doctor tempts Sarah Jane into the TARDIS with the thought of a beautiful holiday on Florana, where the sea is as warm milk, and the sand as soft as swans' down, and the air is as...... (fade, closing titles)

As for the plot, welll, after much running about after dinosaurs, and troops trying to arrest the Doctor for being a criminal (he was framed for making a dinosaur appear) and the Brigadier risking a court martial by defying General finch and refusing to shoot the Doctor, UNIT breaks into the underground base, an disused Government nuclear bomb shelter.
The spaceship going off to a new world with Sarah on board actually turns out to be in the underground base too - the idea is that time on Earth is to be rolled back so the scientists and spaceship crowd just walk up to the surface and find themselves in prehistoric earth ie. a new world. However, the Doctor reverses the polarity of the neutron flow on Professor Whitaker's time machine and the scientists and Grover alone are taken back in time....

Ah, the good old neutron flow - always reversing its polarity when you need it to...

How does he defeat the Planet Of The Spiders? I've forgotten that one as well.

>How does he defeat the Planet Of The Spiders? I've forgotten that one as well.

He returns the Blue Crystal he nicked during "The Green Death", knowing that adding it will complete The Great One's power but will also overload it, causing her to burn/melt etc. Great lines there "Bow down before me, oh planets...eeeeek... my brain's on fire, I'm melting, I'm dying, aaaaahhhhh!" as bits of blue crystal fall on Pertwee - the expression on his face, supposedly a dying Time Lord caught in the blast of her radiation, is one of someone suffering from constipation and unable to drop one!

So what happens in Galaxy 4?

>So what happens in Galaxy 4?

Don't know, don't care. By and large, I don't really do Hartnell, you know, I just find them terribly boring... there's more fun to be had with Troughton's surviving shows...

Wow, someone else who finds Hartnell stories boring.

How refreshing.

Returning to the offstage behaviour of Doctor Who's. I've met Peter Davidson, whilst he was Doctor Who, thoroughly nice man. Jon Pertwee, who I've also met was a total arse. He was in my local record shop, wearing that daft cape of his, signing books and videos. The bloke in front of me getting a book signed obviously had learning difficulties, but he just makes a polite "oh I'm so honoured to meet you" spiel and old Perters retorts with "how unfortunate for me, now do you mind I'm busy!" When it comes to me, he goes berserk cause I handed him a video with Patrick Troughton on the cover instead of him. "Patrick Troughton! I don't know whether I should sign this, the cheek." Yes John, don't shatter kids illusions or anything. I'd just love to know if anyone has any similar anecdotes when he was making appearances dressed as Worzel Gummidge. Arse!

>So what happens in Galaxy 4?

By the look of it, about three seconds of people holding a boring conversation in black and white tinted blue.

>>So what happens in Galaxy 4?
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>By the look of it, about three seconds of people holding a boring conversation in black and white tinted blue.

You should see the extended, three minute clip in light grey and dark grey. I had to massage my cheeks after that...