Richard and Judy Shock! Posted Sat Sep 2 16:21:56 BST 2000 by Barnaby

If anyone gives a toss, "This Morning" launches its new look on Monday. The titles will be different, the studio will be different, and half the experts have been axed. The big three of Denise Robertson, Raj Persaud and Dr Chris Steele have been retained, plus chef John Torode, to join Richard and Judy, plus Fern and John on Fridays.

The Ray Monk/David Pringle theme music has also been retained.

Nicky Clarke's been axed, as has chef Simon Rimmer, fashion expert Brenda Emmanus, wine experts Charles Metcalfe and Leslie Grantham. Occasional movies/music host Kate Thornton was also axed, I believe, but she's been brought back for political reasons.

Dianne Nelmes, who was launch editor of the show, is no longer controller of ITV Daytime, and has no power to protect the show from the changes - which might be for the good. Her successor Marion Duffy, (whom I understand from Granada friends is a failed former BBC daytime exec producer) is determined to make her mark on the show.

She's already kicked out a £50,000 new set in order that her preferred design can be brought in, and the axings/changes were instigated by her.

Thanks to her, the oh-so-camp 80's-style set (known by insiders as "the boilerhouse", based on the original Liverpool set with its nautical compass themes) was smashed to bits with a sledgehammer and dumped outside the London Studios last week, which is where I saw it while walking past with friends after a stroll along the South Bank.

My personal conspiracy theory is that she's a BBC insider, who's taken a job in Network Centre to sabotage ITV's daytime strangehold on ratings...


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Posted By John! on Sat Sep 2 16:54:02 BST 2000:

I shall set my alarm on Monday morning especially.


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Posted By oil me on Sat Sep 2 17:11:29 BST 2000:

What is so camp about the TM set?


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Posted By Anonymous on Sat Sep 2 20:36:49 BST 2000:

It used pastel pinks and blues, which are obviously gay colours. And all the naval stuff.


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Posted By Suiii on Sat Sep 2 21:35:13 BST 2000:

Sounds like John's bedroom!


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Posted By John! on Sat Sep 2 22:47:02 BST 2000:

My secret shame!


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Posted By Barnaby on Sat Sep 2 23:36:06 BST 2000:

>My secret shame!

Mock ye not. I felt very attached to the boiler house you know.


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Posted By Wife on Sat Sep 2 23:44:08 BST 2000:

Johns room has a very nautical air about it, chock full of Seamen.


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Posted By Richard 'Chris Evans' Madeley on Sat Sep 2 23:57:58 BST 2000:

Have they got rid of Judy's shaking arm as well??


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Posted By John! on Sun Sep 3 00:10:37 BST 2000:

I doubt it.

And the seamen are all over my dressing gown, not my room in general.


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Posted By Peter Ohwhateveritwas on Sun Sep 3 08:34:45 BST 2000:

A bit like Craig David?


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Posted By John! on Sun Sep 3 15:51:53 BST 2000:

Who's that?


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Posted By Anonymous on Sun Sep 3 18:29:33 BST 2000:

The double entendre in confusing the words "seamen" and "semen" doesn't work in text.

Making it even less funny than it was before.


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Posted By John! on Sun Sep 3 19:50:05 BST 2000:

But...my dressing gown has pictures of seamen all over it.

And?


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Posted By RB on Mon Sep 4 08:38:01 BST 2000:

And other seamen, if I know you!


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Posted By nunuf on Mon Sep 4 12:10:55 BST 2000:

11 ocs contracts all round, i think.


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Posted By Arma on Mon Sep 4 13:07:30 BST 2000:

not for John!, he's a little......well......


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 4 15:54:16 BST 2000:

Weird?


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Posted By Arma on Mon Sep 4 16:07:12 BST 2000:

Hmm, lets just say your humour might not appeal to the 11ocs audience!


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 4 18:00:01 BST 2000:

Well, I'm sure they'd love me if they got to know me!

Either that, or they'd be throwing knives at my face and writing obscene words in blood on my house.


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Posted By Lovely Wife on Mon Sep 4 21:01:17 BST 2000:

I love him a lot. He is the sexiest thing on two legs ever, and I should know, I've shared a bed with him!!!*


































*Obviously in a purely platonic fashion, cos he's a poof, and that's just.......wrong innit!


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 4 21:34:51 BST 2000:

I wish you'd stop advertising the fact we slept together.

There are men around who might get the wrong idea.


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Posted By Simon Harries on Wed Sep 6 20:21:27 BST 2000:

In my opinion, the new opening titles and graphics for "This Morning" (designed for the first time outside of Granada, I understand) are the cheesiest and most unpleasant titles I have ever seen in my life.

That's rich coming from me. My occasional forays into television production have earned me a reputation for being a cheesemonger. But I don't think anyone could have made a more toe-curling set of titles and graphics, even had they been trying to devise a daytime pastiche in the style of TMWRNJ or Victoria Wood's "All Day Breakfast".

Everyone in them (each "family" member) looks like a wax effigy, or completely pissed. And what is Raj Persaud doing with his eyebrows?

Through a cheap attempt to generate a widescreen picture (shooting in 4:3 ratio and then putting it through a standards converter to arc it) the picture quality resembles a poor NTSC transfer from The God Channel. The new logo reminds me of the dust jacket of the Junior New English Bible I used to take to Sunday School...

It makes me weep - I really think this is the beginning of the end for "This Morning"


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Posted By John! on Wed Sep 6 23:03:22 BST 2000:

They did pass comment about the hideous new logo on the show the other day, stating it to look like something off a religious channel.

Judy was also accused of being a lesbian.

'Ya great big lezzer' is how Richard put it.


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Posted By Arma on Wed Sep 6 23:22:22 BST 2000:

the logo just looks turgid (the 11-year old one looks better for heavens sake!!). I could have designed a better one.

In fact, yes, I shall.

And I shall post a link here.

Yes.

And what's wrong with The God Channel?


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Posted By John! on Thu Sep 7 00:04:18 BST 2000:

I could have done better with a broken pencil clamped between my lips.


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Posted By Simon Harries on Thu Sep 7 15:31:46 BST 2000:

>And what's wrong with The God Channel?

Nothing at all if you're into that sort of thing, but it has no place on ITV in the morning... I mean, pass the tambourine, man!


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Posted By tvspaulmoore on Thu Sep 7 16:24:56 BST 2000:

Yes but worse was to come in the actual show- have you seen the recipes? Where's the jolly banter gone? I only used to watch it for the odd insight into R & J's domestic set up- 'Richard doesn't normally like Aubergine do you?' or Judy deliberately avoiding having to raise a fork to her mouth with her wobbly hand... aah... all gone...


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Posted By TVOD on Thu Sep 7 16:27:56 BST 2000:

What do you lot do all day?

Watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch daytime television and then go on the forum and then watch ...

I think I've made my point.


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Posted By TVOD on Thu Sep 7 16:30:21 BST 2000:

PS I'm making no value judgements about such a lifestyle. In fact, I'm jealous.


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Posted By John! on Thu Sep 7 16:41:56 BST 2000:

It's excellent.

This Morning, bit of Watercolour Challenge, the news, Esther, Countdown, The Weakest Link.

Have you ever seen such a list of quality programmes?


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Posted By TVOD on Thu Sep 7 17:08:49 BST 2000:

Watercolour Challenge, eh?
Like the sound of that.
Must take a sickie.


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Posted By John! on Thu Sep 7 17:32:11 BST 2000:

Believe me.

You'll love it.


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Posted By Arma on Thu Sep 7 18:19:08 BST 2000:

Sure you wouldn't rather take a brickie?


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Posted By Simon Harries on Thu Sep 7 20:30:31 BST 2000:

>Yes but worse was to come in the actual show- have you seen the recipes? Where's the jolly banter gone? I only used to watch it for the odd insight into R & J's domestic set up- 'Richard doesn't normally like Aubergine do you?' or Judy deliberately avoiding having to raise a fork to her mouth with her wobbly hand... aah... all gone...

Except that on Fridays, when Fern and John present, Fern will be allowed to take part in the cookery slot alongside the new chef, her hubby Phil Vickery... I daresay there'll be plenty of off-camera yelling and banter from John Leslie (I hope so anyway)


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Posted By Arma on Thu Sep 7 21:01:55 BST 2000:

Fii----i-iiiiinn-n-nni-iiiiiii-is-s-ss-hed!

http://www.idrive.com/arma2/

> tismoning.jpg or whatever.
> (it's Judy, by the way)


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Posted By John! on Fri Sep 8 10:30:59 BST 2000:

It seems to be temporarily restricted.

Time for John and Fern then. Tsk.

I wish I had something better to do.


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Posted By Arma on Fri Sep 8 16:23:07 BST 2000:

Get a job?


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Posted By John! on Fri Sep 8 16:41:51 BST 2000:

I had a job.

I just found I didn't actually like working.


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Posted By tvspaulmoore on Fri Sep 8 17:07:09 BST 2000:

>>...on Fridays, when Fern and John present, Fern will be allowed to take part in the cookery slot alongside the new chef, her hubby Phil Vickery...>

And did you see that John Leslie and Fern have graduated to the title sequence this series?

I still can't work out what Raj, Chris etc are doing at the top of the titles. Christ knows what the director told them to do, unless it was 'nod off camera in a vaguely self-conscious and awkward manner'- in which case they did a very good job.


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Posted By John! on Fri Sep 8 17:27:48 BST 2000:

It really is vomit inducing.

It's like some tribute to tacky early 90's TV.


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Posted By Suiii on Fri Sep 8 21:17:03 BST 2000:

>I had a job.
>
>I just found I didn't actually like working.

Work is the way 'The Man' keeps us down, it's evil!


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Posted By Arma on Fri Sep 8 22:18:43 BST 2000:

Then describe to me the method in which income enters your dwelling and things like 24 hour internet access (you obviously have it!) are paid for.


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Posted By Suiii on Fri Sep 8 23:04:51 BST 2000:

I'm Johns pimp.*
























*Note: I have cleared this with the DSS, it does not count as 'earnings' more sort of 'rent'. Oh yeah, and my 24/7 access is 100% gratis, so that means John is now allowed a night off once a month.


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Posted By John! on Fri Sep 8 23:56:34 BST 2000:

I get money from the heavens.

Jesus, He loves me, and He knows I'm right.


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Posted By RB on Sat Sep 9 11:18:19 BST 2000:

PS Couldn't get it up yesterday. The Forum, I mean.
That's why I was so quiet.


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Posted By RB on Sat Sep 9 11:44:12 BST 2000:

Whoops! That was meant for the waleS4Cymru thread


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Posted By John! on Sat Sep 9 12:30:53 BST 2000:

Naughty RB.


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Posted By Arma on Sat Sep 9 15:42:48 BST 2000:

Heavens Above, you might say!


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Posted By Suiii on Sat Sep 9 15:46:58 BST 2000:

John, you're s'posed to be working! Get down to the docks, the baby needs new shoes!


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Posted By Arma on Sat Sep 9 16:34:17 BST 2000:

*Sniff* you never told me about any baby...


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Posted By Suiii on Sat Sep 9 16:42:27 BST 2000:

Awww there there.
John stole it from outside Woolworths, in the belief that it was a puppy. Sadly, it has fallen upon me to raise it while John 'works', but because I only know how to look after rabbits and dogs the baby is suffering. It's quite funny though, it has developed a taste for chewy sticks, and it's a great little digger!
Want us to do your garden Arma? *g*


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Posted By John! on Sat Sep 9 17:11:42 BST 2000:

I'm bored with the baby now.

I think I might 'lose' it.


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Posted By Arma on Sat Sep 9 17:15:58 BST 2000:

A most peculiar 'love child'.

I have no garden because I live in a sewer.


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Posted By Suiii on Sat Sep 9 17:29:54 BST 2000:

Yeah...that baby got boring very quickly. Why don't we get a pet bumble bee instead?
Arma, what's it like to live in a sewer? John and I live in one of those supermarket bread crates, very airy but a tad impractical for raising children.


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Posted By John! on Sat Sep 9 17:43:21 BST 2000:

But it smells so good.

Fresh bread crumbs stored away for a rainy day.


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Posted By Suiii on Sat Sep 9 17:45:33 BST 2000:

And crumpets, for those winter nights.


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Posted By John! on Sat Sep 9 17:48:55 BST 2000:

If there's a better winter meal than cold crumpets in a bread tray, *I* haven't found it.


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Posted By Arma on Sat Sep 9 19:53:32 BST 2000:

A sewery? Very practible thankyou. You can find allsorts down here (but the telly reception aint that great)


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Posted By Suiii on Sat Sep 9 22:05:39 BST 2000:

I bet you can still get Channel 5, unlike John, who lives too near the French!


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Posted By John! on Sun Sep 10 00:09:40 BST 2000:

But as I always say: who wants Channel 5?

I'd much rather have the French.

Ahem.


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Posted By RB on Mon Sep 11 08:16:07 BST 2000:

>Heavens Above, you might say!

Are we talking pubs in Newcastle here, Arma?
Or is that just a coincidence?


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 11 13:32:45 BST 2000:

Who knows?

I'm not sure if I went to Heaven's Above, or I think I did, can't remember. Was it outside there I mounted the lesbian?

Hmm.


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Posted By RB on Mon Sep 11 15:11:23 BST 2000:

I think that was the Barking Dog


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Posted By Jon on Mon Sep 11 15:17:51 BST 2000:

Sounds like something they might have in Canada - the Royal Mounted Lesbians...


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 11 15:29:48 BST 2000:

No, The Barking Dog was the place we went to before the film, and were harassed by some old depressed drunk.


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Posted By Jon on Mon Sep 11 15:34:44 BST 2000:

I like the way you've brought it back round to the subject of Richard and Judy. Both of them are mentioned in the previous posting.


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 11 15:53:32 BST 2000:

Yep, well, Richard and Judy are very close to my heart, it was only fair to let them come to the pub with us.


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Posted By RB on Mon Sep 11 16:21:31 BST 2000:

I bet they never stood a round.

By this, I do not mean they moved about vigorously, thus avoiding being static.
I mean they never bought any beer.


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 11 16:32:27 BST 2000:

I should bloody hope not, we were in a gay bar.

Beer?


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Posted By Arma on Mon Sep 11 17:34:45 BST 2000:

>>Heavens Above, you might say!
>
>Are we talking pubs in Newcastle here, Arma?
>Or is that just a coincidence?

Whatever do you mean? I simply said a regular, english, common, plain expression. It's not as if I'm stalking you is it . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . no i'm not actually


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Posted By Simon Harries on Mon Sep 11 20:25:08 BST 2000:

>I mean they never bought any beer.

No, they're both as tight as gnats' chuffs... Though Judy's dodgy knees wouldn't permit her to stand around too much...


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Posted By Suiii on Mon Sep 11 20:53:28 BST 2000:

It was outside 'Heavens Above' where John mounted that lesbotron. And Richard and Judy not only didn't buy us a drink in the Barking Dog, they looked at us scornfully when we drank 6 vodka and Red Bulls in one pint glass each *ahem*
Fucking disgraceful. I wonder if that man killed himself then??


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Posted By John! on Mon Sep 11 22:29:57 BST 2000:

He might as well have, he didn't seem to have much to live for if the best people he could find to talk to were us.


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Posted By Suiii on Mon Sep 11 23:17:09 BST 2000:

And I did suggest suicide at least 5 times, maybe more. He was incredibly ugly though, it would've been a mercy killing!


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Posted By RB on Tue Sep 12 08:20:14 BST 2000:

Oh dear. On that basis, about 95 per cent of people in Why-Aye Land should be culled. (Boyfy is in the five per cent, I hasten to add).


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Posted By John! on Tue Sep 12 11:26:55 BST 2000:

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to say it.


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Posted By Suiii on Tue Sep 12 14:14:12 BST 2000:

Not me???


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Posted By John! on Tue Sep 12 15:16:04 BST 2000:

No, of course not you.

The men.


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Posted By RB on Tue Sep 12 16:39:01 BST 2000:

I thought I'd been visiting during the Ugly Gay Men's Association conference.

But they were there every time I visited.


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Posted By John! on Tue Sep 12 17:49:41 BST 2000:

The one who gave us all the vodka in The Barking Dog was okay.

But apart from that, nah.


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Posted By Suiii on Tue Sep 12 18:58:45 BST 2000:

Let's MURDER THEM!


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