Oh, except the Muppets Treasure Island, which is a work of sheer genius...

RHPS is cool, and Muppet Treasure Island is almost as cool! How about an imalgamation of the two? 'The Rocky Horror Muppet Show'? Can you imagine Kermit the frog as Frank and Miss Piggy as Magenta?! YEUGHHH!

>'The Rocky Horror Muppet Show'? Can you imagine Kermit the frog as Frank and Miss Piggy as Magenta?! YEUGHHH!

Wicked idea, but Miss Piggy would have to be Janet and Kermit would need to be Brad, as they're always the couple.
Animal as Riff Raff, Janice as Magenta, Fozzie Bear as Rocky, Gonzo as Frank (?) Rizzo as the narrator, not sure about Columbia...

And Tim Curry would have to play some kind of Obligatory 'human' role.

As Simon Pegg said in 'Spaced' (ep. 2, I think), roughly: "RHPS is shite for 1st year Drama students who think they're wild for wearing tie-dye clothes". Or something like that.

Shame he doesn't read the site anymore, he could help me out on that one. Do any of his fans know?

>"RHPS is shite for 1st year Drama students who think they're wild for wearing tie-dye clothes". Or something like that.

What is that suppose to mean?
RHPS is like a worldwide cult and it's popularity is by no means confined to drama students.
In fact many of the Eastbourne's pensioners were in the audience when I went to see it recently.
...There is a perverse satisfaction in lobbing rice over a balcony onto their unsuspecting heads, or squirting them with water pistols.

> "RHPS is shite for 1st year Drama students who think they're wild for wearing tie-dye clothes". Or something like that.

I think it went "boil-in-the-bag perversion for 1st year Drama students with too many posters of Betty Blue, Blue Velvet and the Blues Brothers all over their blue bloody walls". Or something. I'm pretty sure about the first bit anyway, and I agree with it too. The way in which it's fans completely miss the lampooning of their own repressed sexual bigotry because they can't see beyond the kitsch and costumes renders it pointless.

>The way in which it's fans completely miss the lampooning of their own repressed sexual bigotry because they can't see beyond the kitsch and costumes renders it pointless.


I don't understand that comment.
Because I like it, I harbour repressed sexual bigotry?
Is that what you're trying to say?

If that *is* the case, then nothing could be further from the truth.

You do write in a very repressed way, Ailie.

The film lampoons sexual prejudices without challenging them. I think what it attempts to do is to portray a cartoon extreme of how society already perceives certain areas of human sexuality, thus rendering those prejudices ridiculous. But this goes straight over the heads of the punters in their fishnets with their rice and waterpistols who, ironically, enjoy the image of broadmindedness and sexual liberation they mistakenly think they are projecting. Is this any clearer? Sorry, I'm always having to explain myself...

Jon: bugger off. I am not repressed! :0)

Ewar: I think you have it wrong.
RHPS is a comedy. It's blatantly ridiculous, which is only too apparent in the hammy acting, the cheesy songs and the film in its entirity.

>The film lampoons sexual prejudices without challenging them.

It doesn't need to challenge them. It was meant as entertainment.

What it *does* do is, as you say, portray certain stereo-typical extremes.

>But this goes straight over the heads of the punters in their fishnets with their rice and waterpistols who, ironically, enjoy the image of broadmindedness and sexual liberation they mistakenly think they are projecting.

This is highly judgemental, Ewar and a gross generalisation.
That's like saying everyone who is vegetarian is a hippy... Yes, some of theme are, but credit people with a little more intelligence.
Dressing up is fun!
Pretending to be something or someone else every now and again can be fun and is harmless. Being in the audience is like a giant party.
Didn't you ever dress up as a child?

The RHPS was never meant to be taken seriously. It was/is a parody of all things sci-fi, all things camp and traditional Americana and I love it!

>RHPS is a comedy. It's blatantly ridiculous, which is only too apparent in the hammy
acting, the cheesy songs and the film in its entirity.

Yes - I don't have any ideological objections to it. It is a comedy. I just don't think it's very funny. And 'The Timewarp' is one of the most annoying records ever. It belongs with Grease and Abba records as some of the worst excesses of student wackydom.

"the cheesy songs"

Hmmm, is this really why Richard O'Brian wrote them - so they can be seen as chessy and ironic? It thoughyt it was a homage to muscials and the ''60's sound' - hence the rock and roll song.
I rmember seeing this live, and enjoying it -unfortunalty the twats i went with sullied this enjoyment - the kind of people who Ewar is talking about, who dress up in 'crazy clothes' to hide the right-wing homophobic views.
Yes, alright, i admit it, i saw it with my drama group when doing GSCE's at school. It was probably that night when i realised drama was a shit subject, thinking about it.

Really sorry to have to do this, Ailie, but....

ROOM 101, 22 OCTOBER 1993, BBC Radio 5

[Extract from The Time Warp]

Mark Lamarr: When I lived in Swindon, they had a club called Level 3....which had an alternative night. And the big alternative record, sadly, was this one, which is...obviously, a very bad record. But it's just one of those things I really hate about students - apart from the fact that I hate everything about 'em - is that when it comes on, it's one of those "I know this record, I must rush on and prove to everyone that I know this'.

Nick Hancock: It is, quite simply, Hi Ho Silver Lining for people who like fancy-dress.

ML: I'd like to think that everyone who listens to this show would hate The Rocky Horror Show.

For once, I'm with Mark....

The main reason I've never been to see TRHPS is that I'd be wearing my normal clothes and everybody else would... well... would be copying e, quite obviously.

"'The Timewarp' is one of the most annoying records ever. It belongs with Grease and Abba records as some of the worst excesses of student wackydom."

I don't mind Grease and Abba, but all copies of The Timewarp and The Blues Brothers Soundtrack should be incinerated.

LOL

Yes, yes, I know Mark Lamarr has an inbuilt hatred for RHPS, but what difference does that make?
NONE!

The fact The Timewarp is so crap, is what makes it so good!
What is aonnying about it, is that it was released as a single and made into the student anthem that we know today.
I discovered recently (to my horror) that a *huge* percentage of the students dancing to it had never even seen RHPS or even knew what it was about!

I totally agree about Grease and Abba, but the RHPS *was* meant to be cheesy.

Yes, it's a homaage to the 60s in a way, but it parodies them too. Just look at Brad and Janet!

Ailie you'll be happy to know then that Rich O'Brian is working on a sequal to mark the end of a hashed out career!

Long may his floral hospital tunics stay useful.

I'm pleased to announce I've never danced to The Timewarp.

In fact, I've never danced at all.

It's hardly as bad as dancing to The Stonk, now, is it?

It is as bad. But not worse, I'll give you that.

Rocky Horror is a really fantastic and clever piece of comedy as long as you ignore everyone else's boring opinions on it. So, as you lot quote Lamarr and Pegg in a circular argument, I am listening to the original Roxy stage soundtrack and digging it bigtime. Later I shall watch the sequel, 'Shock Treatment', and dig the holy fuck out of that too. 'I'm not a locum with motive to suture myself...' I am happy and I have a lesbian girl at the end of my bed licking the soles of my feet.

So who's the cunt?

Congratulations.

Boring my opinion may be - I still think it's shite.

"as you lot quote Lamarr and Pegg in a circular argument"

Bit of a vague generalisation isn't it? Look at what me and Ailie wrote for example (and others i imagine).
Comments like that, and people will see through your cover, JIm Yokum

I would suggest a group sing-song, but, well, I can't be bothered.

>Rocky Horror is a really fantastic and clever piece of comedy as long as you ignore everyone else's boring opinions on it.

Yes, so long as they like it and then their opinons are okay.

Joe, where did you get Shock Treatment from?
I've been trying to track down a copy for ages, but without any luck.