Irrefutable truths Posted Sun Aug 27 20:04:26 BST 2000 by Justin

Sod the Bible - the media world currently has a dogmatic approach which basically means that disagreeing with certain truths is just not permissible.

Such as:

B** B***** - even if you can't stand them, it's compulsive viewing!

Jamie Oliver! Cheeky, eh? Loves his mum, eh? (Apart from Eminem, so does everyone, mind you.)

Chris Evans is rubbish now, obviously, but he was one of the most talented, original people in broadcasting (up till about 1996).

Abba are brilliant - even when Denise Van Outen covers "Dancing Queen" which shows what superb taste she has (ITV, last night). No sign of Blancmange covering their 1982 flop "The Day Before You Came", but that didn't sell very well, and so is obviously worthless. (Like Alan Partridge never happened, clearly.)

Even if you possess no talent whatsoever, as long as you are good-looking or part of some scene, you are redeemed. Hurray.

They Might Be Giants are shit, even though they are so much more intelligent, funny and meaningful than most of the useless, spineless journalists who slag them off.*

This Life - it's like someone pointed a mirror at my own experience!

Describing your drug and alcohol intake in detail is fascinating in its own right.









*A personal one, that.




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Posted By TJ on Sun Aug 27 21:11:21 BST 2000:

At the risk of further pushing myself into this stereotyped bracket of being of exactly the same mindset as yourself and Jason Hazeley, Justin, I have to say that I'm with you all the way in wanting to see TMBG's erratic genius properly saluted...


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Posted By Justin on Sun Aug 27 21:39:37 BST 2000:

It would not surprise me if some people believed that Jason, TJ and myself are actually all one and the same.

They Might Be Giants: whatever his other faults, in February 1999, Bob Mills devoted 90 minutes of his late night Sunday show on GLR to a chat with the two Johns, followed by studio performances of several selections from their back catalogue. GLR has now died, to be replaced by the rubbish London Live, which has all but abandoned live music in a vain search for ratings with daytime shows featuring Alice Beer and Lisa I'Anson (yes, *that*'s where she is now). Delighted to see that London Live's audience share has now dipped from 0.4% to 0.3%. Well done, the BBC - another winner. (From Miss Jay of Putney, obviously.)


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Posted By Steven on Sun Aug 27 23:17:15 BST 2000:

I dont care what the corpses think on the subject of Bob Mills, classing Ricky Gervais as 'Bob Mills with designer stubble'.
I think Bob Mills is hilarious, and the extremely cheap way In Bed with Medinner is done proves how he can get such funny material out of some old crap shows. Granted he did Win Lose or Draw which is more the Shane Ritchie type level of showbusiness, so I can't say hes not flawed. But he definitely deserves some credit, whereas Gervais doesnt.


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Posted By Justin on Mon Aug 28 00:01:07 BST 2000:

"In Bed With Medinner": £2000 per show, Mills once claimed on GLR.

Yeah, alright, I liked it too. Not sure about "Bob Martin", that's all.


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Posted By Prisoner #93A234 Simon Adebisi on Mon Aug 28 02:07:20 BST 2000:

What's that blue thing doing here?


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Posted By Steve Berry on Tue Aug 29 20:06:21 BST 2000:

Ah, now you see, it was Bob Martin that I liked. Obvious Sanders rip off but a very well done Sanders rip off (in that it wasn't a watered down version, simply a carbon copy).

Cheerio

Steve


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Posted By Justin on Tue Aug 29 22:01:01 BST 2000:

>Ah, now you see, it was Bob Martin that I liked.

I'm somewhere in the middle, actually. Although I'm told the second series will be half-hours, so should be tighter.


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Posted By Mr Griffiths on Wed Aug 30 10:54:04 BST 2000:

Bob Martin was dire, dire, dire. It is to Larry Sanders what 11OCS is to The Day Today.

They Might Be Giants are good. But even better, and homegrowm, too, are Cardiacs.


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Posted By boki on Wed Aug 30 17:00:48 BST 2000:

Eerily enough, They Might Be Giants are the subject of the top story in today's Onion update!

Nice to see a Cardiacs mention courtesy of Mr Griffiths there. Hands up who else likes 'em!


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Posted By Sam D on Wed Aug 30 17:23:21 BST 2000:


>Nice to see a Cardiacs mention courtesy of Mr Griffiths there. Hands up who else likes 'em!

Seems rather unfair to stick your hand up someone just because they like the Cardiacs.


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Posted By boki on Wed Aug 30 18:41:58 BST 2000:

>Seems rather unfair to stick your hand up someone just because they like Cardiacs.

Depends, really. The one I got wasn't too sweaty, shouldn't cause any lasting rectal damage and saves nursie another manual excavation job. She's so grateful that she's gone out to get both parts of 'Sing To God'.


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Posted By Sam D on Wed Aug 30 18:48:46 BST 2000:

Heh heh!
Nice job, nursie!


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Posted By Mr Griffiths on Wed Aug 30 21:08:13 BST 2000:

And she's come back whispering verses!

Now I think of it, Cardiacs are a lot funnier than most comedy around today. Have you seen the behind the scenes 'tourfilm' bit of the 'Maresnest' video? The band aren't allowed to talk to one another on the tourbus and 'ablutions are carried out with near-ritual efficency'. Marvellous stuff.

And Tim demanding of Jim 'Look at my shoe!!!!!!'


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Posted By Tequila Slammer on Thu Aug 31 17:07:12 BST 2000:

>Eerily enough, They Might Be Giants are the subject of the top story in today's Onion update!
>
>Nice to see a Cardiacs mention courtesy of Mr Griffiths there. Hands up who else likes 'em!

I Like'em!


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Posted By Tequila Slammer on Thu Aug 31 17:12:28 BST 2000:

The 'Cardiacs as comedy' point is well worth making - i have wet and wincey eyes - from laughing at them!

Bob Mills for London Mayor - oops a tad late i guess


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Posted By Mr Griffiths on Fri Sep 1 12:06:40 BST 2000:

>The 'Cardiacs as comedy' point is well worth making - i have wet and wincey eyes - from laughing at them!
>
Tequila Slammer - aint he messy though!


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