I think she's overrated.

>I think she's overrated.

She's overheated. Hence the pitstop.

She might be underfelted too, which would explain the overheating.

I think she's pants

>I think she's pants

No. She doesn't look like the type that would wear them.

MY favourite Hanna Barbera types were always The Banana Splits.

Never liked The Flintstones.

The one out of the Ant Hill Mob who giggled at everything, no matter how inappropriately, always made me chuckle in turn.

I liked the one who was based on Mo out of the 3 Stooges, and called everyone "ya knucklehead".

Didn't she have a thang going on with that Peter Perfect dude with the bulbous chin?

The Ant Hill Mob had a member called Pockets, I seem to remember. Whatever they needed to remove PP from a sticky situation, he could oblige - with an item stored in his pockets, which is sort of logical.

Let us be brutally honest here. Most Hanna-Barbera cartoons after The Flintstones and Top Cat have really crap animation and pathetic storylines. Wacky Races just about gets away with it because of its eccentric characters, and D&M & Their Flying Machines because it was clearly written by someone on very strange drugs.
As for the rest (you too, Mr. Scooby so-called Doo), you'd have to BE on drugs to enjoy them.


Oooh...little bit controversial?

I disagree. The Banana Splits and Josie and the Pussycats are ace. Oh and Hong Kong Phooey and Wait Till Your Father Gets Home too.

I will concede Wait Till Your Father Gets home.

The Banana Splits used to scare me when I was a kid. Now that I'm a "mature" adult they scare me even more.

I hate it when people say writers of weird mad stuff must be "on drugs". Ever heard of the imagination? Ooh hark at me.

Jon, there's a place for blethering on about Penelope Pitstop. It's called the pub. Just around the corner from TV Cream.

>Jon, there's a place for blethering on about Penelope Pitstop. It's called the pub. Just around the corner from TV Cream.

Joe, I can perfectly understand you having higher expectations regarding the content of this forum, but isn't the above at odds with your comments on TV Cream, especially this bit:

'Do you enjoy taking something you obviously adored as a child and then sneering at it to make yourself feel better about the complete lack of grass-roots good stuff you've personally contributed to the world? Just checking.'

Of course, you've got two ways out of that:
1. "Jon's obviously being sarcastic, and hence an example of the above sneerer (sneerist?)"
2. "err...Mike wrote that bit. Yeah, that's it"


I'm confused. Please clear me up.

I'm not blethering, I've started a campaign. By mentioning PP here we're putting pressure on people in the industry to demand higher standards of comedy animation, like we had before 1996.

>I'm not blethering, I've started a campaign. By mentioning PP here we're putting pressure on people in the industry to demand higher standards of comedy animation, like we had before 1996.



What? "Jimbo And The Jet Set"??????????

No, "Henry's Cat".

If Dexter's Laboratory, Powerpuff Girls, I Am Weasel, Angela Anaconda, Cow and Chicken, Ed, Edd and Eddy, Rocko's Modern Life, Fat Dog Mendoza, Pinky and the Brain and Courage the Cowardly dog aren't quality animation, then I'm a WELSHMAN!!!!!!

Multiple exclamation points. A sure sign of the diseased mind.






Are you sure you're not looking at Henry's Cat through a wave of nostalgia? I saw some episodes on tape, and the most entertaining part was the titles. mainly because I was staying with goths, and the sight of goths meowing to a kid's TV show is very amusing...

>'Do you enjoy taking something you obviously adored as a child and then sneering at it to make yourself feel better about the complete lack of grass-roots good stuff you've personally contributed to the world? Just checking.'

This was a comment on people's habit of plundering the 'cool', kitsch bits of kids' TV and pretending that was all they ever watched, when in fact the same generation were also enjoying Blue Peter and Saturday Superstore like the rest of us.

>This was a comment on people's habit of plundering the 'cool', kitsch bits of kids' TV and pretending that was all they ever watched, when in fact the same generation were also enjoying Blue Peter and Saturday Superstore like the rest of us.
>
Absolutely. I get so sick of the crap people talk about Blue Peter especially - 'magpie was working class and cool, Blue Peter was for middle class kids.' Magpie was shite. It was little better than its successor 'Freetime'. Every kid watched Blue Peter - it's just that they wouldn't admit it then, and it would appear, they won't now, for the ame reason it's not cool. This is kids TV for christ's sake - it's not supposed to be cool.

>Multiple exclamation points. A sure sign of the diseased mind.

What are you implying???????????????????

LOL@george!

Standards of animation have always been of variable quality regardless of which period in time you refer to. Quality animation relies as much as good planning at the script and storyboard stage as well as the actual production values and execution of ideas. I'd definetely include pre-1996 shows as *Jimbo and the Jet Set* and *Henry's Cat* as trash, and rate *Dexter's Lab* and Family Guy* as post-1996 favourites. To pigeon-hole all animation into such categories is stupid and nonsensical!

Also, Mike and Al are right though to be critical of the way kid's tv has been subjected to examination by the fashion police. I confess openly to watching Blue Peter, and have happy memories of Mark Curry's cooking disasters!

But Henry's Cat doesn't deserve to be even mentioned in the same sentence as Jimbo and the Jet Set - it was great! Didn't Arthur Smith do the narration? And doesn't Tony Blair look like Chris Rabbit?

I'm pretty sure Bob Godfrey did his own narration for "Henry's Cat"..
could be wrong, though...
What about that weird Czech cartoon about that multi-limbed egg with Beethoven played over it? That was smart! Ludwig was it?
It was miles stranger than Worker and Parasite off the Simpsons.

Ludwig was similarly terrific. And 'Worker and Parasite' is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on TV. "What the hell was that?"

What about that Ammendment cartoon? with the "I'm an ammendment to be" song..
does anyone remember the cartoon (70s I reckon) where some kid met an igneous rock and it took him on a whirl-wind adventure of different underground rock-types...
well, the two were very similar!
Ign-gen-eous....... ooh, blimey! no.. that doesn't work... should have gone for a more sedimentary pun... ah, fuck it.

:o)

*The amendment to be song* cartoon - not too sure if it was an actual piece on a show such as Sesame Street, or Simpsons spoofery.

Bob Godfrey did do the narration on Henry's Cat. - although I'm curious as to the Tony Blair - Chris Rabbit link! (LOL!)

>For what it's worth, my favourite Bob Godfrey animation is the Oscar-winning IKB(1974). Shame that only *popular* culture gets reviewed in the name of trendy nostalgia. Whilst on the subject of animation, I would have also nominated Le Planete Sauvage/The Fantastic Planet also from the same year.

I did say the pub *round the corner* from TV Cream HQ...

I did say: Shame that only *popular* culture gets reviewed in the name of trendy nostalgia.

I can't recall seeing a listing for IKB or The Fantastic Planet on TV Cream, nor the Pixar shorts, National Film Board of Canada, The Simpsons, The Talking Heads films by Aardman,....

OK, so some of them aren't television programmes - but they were all made or broadcast pre-1990.

...and please don't get me started the subject of animation..............

>LOL@george!
>
>Standards of animation have always been of variable quality regardless of which period in time you refer to. Quality animation relies as much as good planning at the script and storyboard stage as well as the actual production values and execution of ideas. I'd definetely include pre-1996 shows as *Jimbo and the Jet Set* and *Henry's Cat* as trash, and rate *Dexter's Lab* and Family Guy* as post-1996 favourites. To pigeon-hole all animation into such categories is stupid and nonsensical!
>
Well, I was mainly having a dig at 1970s US TV animation...the kind of 'classics' like Jabberjaw, Super Globetrotters and Speed Buggy that can currently be seen on the Boomerang channel. Almost all of them look as if they were created by committees and written and animated as quickly and cheaply as possible in order to meet a hurried deadline.
OK, so they didn't have computers to help with the animation back then, but the fact remains that modern TV cartoons like Dexter's Laboratory and Courage, the Cowardly Dog look as if they were created by individuals (because they usually were) have ten times the wit and a hundred times the heart of most 70s cartoons.