So what's this Nick bloke supposed to have done, then? Posted Mon Aug 21 08:39:54 BST 2000 by Jon

I have never seen 'Big Brother' and would never gaze at such prolefeed. But seeing as the story now permeates every aspect of British culture (I'm sure there was a piece by George Steiner in the TLS the other day) could someone give me a concise report of who this Nick character is and what he has supposed to have done, exactly? Keep it brief.


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Posted By Ailie on Mon Aug 21 09:12:22 BST 2000:

He cheated at voting people out of the house, by circulating who he was voting for in written form, (which is strictly forbidden) whilst at the same time, telling the named individuals how great they are, or summat.


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Posted By Jon on Mon Aug 21 09:19:03 BST 2000:

But if all that was on TV, why didn't C4 step in and put a stop to it, or warn him or something?


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Posted By Ailie on Mon Aug 21 09:28:35 BST 2000:

Well, it's apparently more fun to have him sacrificed by the media and his housemates.

C4 (allegedly) 'didn't know' about the cheatimg until he was found out by the housemates, who were really pissed off.

It's all shite, really. Don't know why I have this compulsion to watch it...


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Posted By PJ on Mon Aug 21 12:32:52 BST 2000:

The whole house had already been given two warnings (one verbal, one written) about cheating in this way - and Nick's 'extreme' case (stealing a pencil to write names on paper) meant he was chucked out.


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Posted By Anonymous on Mon Aug 21 18:26:41 BST 2000:

But all the lads (and possibly the girls) conspired against inmates, to get them out. Of course they seem to forget that when there's someone they can unite against in shitting on.

And then there's the "only a game show" song they all love. It IS only a game show. Nick seemed to be doing quite well at it.


But we really shouldn't be talking about it, coz it's what C4 wants.


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Posted By Mogwai on Mon Aug 21 18:46:39 BST 2000:

Telling a group of people that your first wife died in a car crash - when you didn't even have a first wife - just to make them like you and feel sorry for you, is a startling act whatever the circumstances. Asked why he'd told this demeaning and pathetic lie, Nick's reply was oddly oblique: "I was badly advised," he muttered.


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Posted By Dr. Hackenbush on Tue Aug 22 00:41:38 BST 2000:

"The statements I made ... are no longer operative"


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Posted By Simon Harries on Tue Aug 22 22:09:36 BST 2000:

>It's all shite, really. Don't know why I have this compulsion to watch it...

Nicholarse has just been signed by John Noel Management Ltd, who also represent Kate Thornton, John Leslie, Blue Peter presenters etc. Wouldn't surprise me if, later this year, he turned up as the presenter of some crappy ITV programme.....


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Posted By Rich on Wed Aug 23 04:59:03 BST 2000:

It makes no sense to me - if he was supposed to have shown the housemates written names, why were they so surprised to find out he'd been showing them written names??

What am I missing here?


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Posted By PJ on Wed Aug 23 12:40:30 BST 2000:

Not all the housemates were shown the names - just Tom, Mel and Craig(?) (and Andrew when he was there). Nick was made the perfect scapegoat when the notes came up, and the people mentioned above got away with reading his notes for the past 5/6 weeks and not telling anyone involved.


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Posted By Rich on Wed Aug 23 14:08:12 BST 2000:

>--the people mentioned above got away with reading his notes for the past 5/6 weeks and not telling anyone involved.

Ta. I knew there had to be some sort of hole in it.


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Posted By Joe4SOTCAA on Fri Sep 1 22:15:59 BST 2000:

'Prolefeed', Jon? What gives you the right to look into the minds of those who watch it? How do you know the viewers aren't watching it ironically, all with a similar sense of higher understanding as yourself?

(I wrote all this last week incidentally. Sorry if it retreads more recent comments...):

It's a horrifying and dangerous series. 'Big Brother' is right. But the dicks under scrutiny aren't the guinea pigs. It's the viewing audience.

Did anybody see that appalling trailer highlighting pleb vox popees saying that Craig (the loveable shaven-headed Skally) was an 'alright bloke' 'cos he's down-to-earth while denouncing Nichola (the shaven-headed one who covered the walls with imprints of her tits) ''cos she's, like, artistic, inshe - thass naw good!'?

Davina MacColl must be very proud to be the acceptable face of this entertainment cancer, whipping the plebs into a lather of dangerous hatred.

Channel 4 used to be a great mix of entertainment and experimental. Michael Jackson and Kevin Lygoe are in the process of redesigning it *all* as 'prolefeed'. Can anybody really tell where 'Eurotrash' ends and normal late-night C4 begins anymore?

Meanwhile, on BBC2, Michael Jackson's bastard child-protege Jane Root is attempting much the same. Why are they doing it? Because they firmly believe there are more proles, plebs and Ibiza-bound twats in their audience than there are people who don't relish having their intelligence insulted by lies, spin and plebbed-down populism.

But we mustn't be 'negative' about it. It's all good fun. The new one showed her silicone-enhanced tits last week. I gather that if you want to see her pubes too you have to pay a subscription charge for the on-line version.

Broadcasting to be proud of.


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Posted By Jon on Sun Sep 3 18:32:32 BST 2000:

Re: "prolefeed".

If you read the original George Orwell novel "1984", you will see that "prolefeed" is the name the Party gives to rubbishy entertainment for the masses. I was using the term in a jokey, ironic comment on the way the people who commisioned the show probably regarded the audience. Sorry you misunderstood.


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Posted By Anonymous on Sun Sep 3 18:38:02 BST 2000:

>Re: "prolefeed".
>If you read the original George Orwell novel "1984", you will see that "prolefeed" is the name the Party gives to rubbishy entertainment for the masses. I was using the term in a jokey, ironic comment on the way the people who commisioned the show probably regarded the audience. Sorry you misunderstood.

Yeah Jon, I'm sure the bloke who wrote the HIGNFY transcript has misunderstood you... your attempts to out-do the corpses are painful to watch.


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Posted By Anonymous on Sun Sep 3 22:07:00 BST 2000:

And your name's unoriginal, so leave it.


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