Simon Evans Posted Fri Aug 11 10:13:12 BST 2000 by Ailie

Simon Evans - Assembly Rooms, Edinburgh, 10th August 2000


Simon Evans cheerily greeted the audience as they entered the small venue, shaking hands, smiling and generally acting like a nice bloke.
In retrospect, the politics of what he did make a lot of sense, as in order to perform his show, he needs the audience on his side.

He started the show by 10 self-indulgent minutes of introducing himself, making sure we understood his accent (educated), his background and the outline that the show would follow. He left the stage and came back on for the 'gig' part.

The set followed a strange format.
There were jokes which were exceptionally witty, sharply delivered with deadpan sarcasm and superiority.
Many of the jokes required some thought on the part of the audience, which made a nice change and meant that it was definitely a show for the grown-ups.

I began to relax into his style and started to *really* enjoy the show. There were times throughout the performance when I was sore from laughing.

The topic then turned to women and Simon Evans demonstrated a clear streak of misogyny.
Purely sexist and highly offensive; not in a 'this-controversial-comedian-is-offensive-so-he-must-be-good' kind of a way, but rather there was no humour in what he was saying.

The strong humour slipped away into poorly thought-out, unfunny and unprofessional material, pausing half-way through, so that Mr. Evans could have a drink from his hip flask...

Maybe the contents of the hip flask go some way to explain the 'joke' that children being hit by cars, naturally helps thin out an over-populated country.

"If they're slow and stupid enough to be hit by a car, they don't deserve to live."

I don't see any excusing that. Not even the influence of a wee dram.

The show then progressed to the plight of tigers and how to sustain such an endangered species; a subject which is close to my heart.
Maybe we could feed them the corpses of dead relatives?

Did you ever have a friend or relative that died and yet, you still expected them to come walking through the door?
Why not watch them being ripped apart by a tiger? Apparently this would guarantee that you never think that way again.

It was disgusting. Plain and simple.

I left the show, a bitter taste in my mouth, with what could have been an excellent gig, spoiled.

Simon Evans personality shone through and it was not to his credit.


Has anyone else seen him live?
Did you find him offensive?


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Posted By Ewar Woowar on Fri Aug 11 10:26:48 BST 2000:


>Did you ever have a friend or relative that died and yet, you still expected them to come walking through the door?
>Why not watch them being ripped apart by a tiger? Apparently this would guarantee that you never think that way again.


Bill Hicks did that first and (probably) better:

"Do you want your Grandmother to die in some cold, sterile hospital room...watching her last pulse work it's way up her blue vein...or do you want her to meet Chuck Norris?"

(this is from memory...please don't jump on me if I've mis-quoted)

Plagiarism is more offensive than tastelessness.


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Posted By Jon on Fri Aug 11 10:56:53 BST 2000:

Is he a Home Counties-sounding guy, talks a cricket a bit, was on Comedy Nation briefly in a sketch about the SAS?

If so he used to be Dan Gaster's double act partner.


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 11:36:31 BST 2000:

>Is he a Home Counties-sounding guy,

Yes. I think so, but I'm not *entirely* sure of a 'home counties' accent.

>talks a cricket a bit, was on Comedy Nation briefly in a sketch about the SAS?

I don't know about that.


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Posted By One Day Soon on Fri Aug 11 12:48:13 BST 2000:

>Is he a Home Counties-sounding guy, talks a cricket a bit, was on Comedy Nation briefly in a sketch about the SAS?
>
>If so he used to be Dan Gaster's double act partner.

Jon, you've got the wrong Evans I'm afraid, but how the fuck do you know this? They haven't done a double act show since college and that was at least six years ago.

Perhaps I've worked out where you spent your days as an undergraduate...


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 13:07:43 BST 2000:

Ailie sorry you had a bad experience in parts. Simon is actuall quite a sexist character. I won't give you a libellous example of my proof but I am just a youngster and I have first hand experience of him attempting vile things.


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 13:17:51 BST 2000:

>Ailie sorry you had a bad experience in parts. Simon is actuall quite a sexist character. I won't give you a libellous example of my proof but I am just a youngster and I have first hand experience of him attempting vile things.


The sexism didn't bother me quite so much as the kiddie joke.

Your experiences sound interesting! Post theu up under an alias.
(ailieas?)

NOOOOO! Now I've started that thing with my own name too!


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Posted By Jon on Fri Aug 11 13:19:35 BST 2000:

One Day Soon -

I've said where I was an undergraduate a while ago... yes, you're right...


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Posted By Jon on Fri Aug 11 13:22:15 BST 2000:

Oh, is the other Evans called Mark Evans then? I can't remember.

But he definitely did do 1 sketch on Comedy Nation, about the SAS having their eyes obscured to cover their identity, and consequently falling about. Hilarious stuff. Said sketch featured James Bachman, who went to the same university. And the show featured Mitchell and Webb, who did as well, and are now in 'Bruiser' with a load of others who did.


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Posted By Ewar Woowar on Fri Aug 11 13:36:46 BST 2000:


>Your experiences sound interesting! Post theu up under an alias.
>(ailieas?)


Damn, I can't believe I didn't think of that one! ;o)


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 13:42:31 BST 2000:

>Damn, I can't believe I didn't think of that one! ;o)

HA!
Second-rate has-been!

:0)


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 14:04:19 BST 2000:

He's a lecherous bastard.


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 14:08:03 BST 2000:

I can well imagine that.

Don't you have any *real* filth, Kinder? :0)


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Posted By Ewar Woowar on Fri Aug 11 14:12:45 BST 2000:

>He's a lecherous bastard.

Who?


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 14:14:49 BST 2000:

>Who?

Getting paranoid are we, Ewar?! ;0)



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Posted By Jon on Fri Aug 11 14:15:08 BST 2000:

Gaster was also in a trio called Curried Goat, with someone called Will Ing, and someone else. I think they all wrote for WeekEnding at some point. Apparently they made the shortlist to be Trevor & Simon's replacements when those 2 quit Going Live, or whatever it was called.


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 14:20:47 BST 2000:

>I can well imagine that.
>
>Don't you have any *real* filth, Kinder? :0)
>
Ailie you appear to be joyous at the thought of such misdoings. I take it you see the prospects of his leching rather opportunistic and quite 'mundane' in terms of your promiscuous lifestyle.

I'm in no doubt my 'filth' would only add to your licentious and damaging view of the world.


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 14:24:02 BST 2000:

I am virginal in my outlook on life.


*halo*




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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 14:27:56 BST 2000:

Well I hate to think what's been concentrated into your inlook.


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 14:31:07 BST 2000:

Oh Kinder! How did you ever become so wise?


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 14:34:46 BST 2000:

lol. Probably by the same means in which you became so unpatronising. :)


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Posted By Ailie on Fri Aug 11 14:37:36 BST 2000:

That's a natural skill!


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Posted By Sam D on Fri Aug 11 14:57:33 BST 2000:

Ailie and Kinder, you're obviously just over-sensitive! They're beautifully crafted one-liners:

"...who said comedy isn't art? I reckon it's just another form of artistic expression.

But who's to say that the beautifully crafted one-liners of Simon Evans are any less artistic than Slovakian mime?"

Who said so? One Mr. Dave Gorman.


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 15:48:48 BST 2000:

We all know that fascists network.


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Posted By One Day Soon on Fri Aug 11 17:06:26 BST 2000:

Jon --

>But he definitely did do 1 sketch on Comedy Nation, about the SAS having their eyes obscured to cover their identity, and consequently falling about. Hilarious stuff. Said sketch featured James Bachman, who went to the same university. And the show featured Mitchell and Webb, who did as well, and are now in 'Bruiser' with a load of others who did.


'Hilarious stuff!' or 'hilarious stuff...'?


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Posted By Jon on Fri Aug 11 17:11:51 BST 2000:

Well... I'm sure it seemed clever when they thought of it, it could have been done well, but it was a bit lame in execution...

[Eyes narrow:] why do you want to know?


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Posted By One Day Soon on Fri Aug 11 17:17:46 BST 2000:

Well it seems like we both know who these people are, Jon. And text is free of irony.


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 19:40:08 BST 2000:

>>He's a lecherous bastard.
>
>Who?

Oh dear I have been hit by the laughing bug today. I am finding everything so funny!




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Posted By Mogwai on Fri Aug 11 19:43:49 BST 2000:

Will Ing. Wrote Simon Mayo's "jokes" for far too long. As with all Radio 1 DJs, Mayo never admitted that a scriptwriter was paid to think up his one liners, and for years there was no hint that there was anyone else in the studio; later on, he was allowed on air as part of a studio "posse", but there was still no hint about his actual role.

Sorry if this shatters any illusions anyone may have had about Simon Mayo. Or about Will Ing, for that matter.


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Aug 11 19:48:29 BST 2000:

I didn't even realise Simon Mayo told any jokes.


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Posted By Jon on Sat Aug 12 14:31:45 BST 2000:

"Will Ing. Wrote Simon Mayo's "jokes" for far too long. As with all Radio 1 DJs, Mayo never admitted that a scriptwriter was paid to think up his one liners, and for years there was no hint that there was anyone else in the studio; later on, he was allowed on air as part of a studio "posse", but there was still no hint about his actual role."

God knows when it was, but there was once a short one-off strip at the back of an issue of Viz about "Simon Salad-Cream" (see what they did there?) who finds a load of old "Two Ronnies" scripts in a BBC skip and then gets a team of writers to rehash them for him.


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Posted By Janet on Tue Aug 15 15:23:35 BST 2000:

Jon wrote:
"Gaster was also in a trio called Curried Goat, with someone called Will Ing, and someone else. I think"

I remember them from Edinburgh '93 (yes, I'm old). I saw around 60 shows that year, and theirs was undoubtably the worst. I remember one member showed vague promise. The other two deserved the lash. (This is actually a generous appraisal).

My favourite heckle happened during this show. Muffled snickers and sarcastic guffaws were coming from some boys at the back of the room. One of the performers decided to break the fourth wall. "Oh, so we've got some comedians up the back have we?" The reply came fast:"Well we certainly don't have any down the front".
Best laugh of the entire show.


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Posted By Jon on Tue Aug 15 15:40:49 BST 2000:

I saw a bit of Edinburgh'93 as well, Janet, so you're not old at all.


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