Oh yes - forgot:

Next week's movies will be:
Last Tango In Paris (9.50pm) and Pete's Dragon (12.25am)

Well, at least they're showing some good movies. I'd never seen Marathon Man. I'm prepared to overlook a load of wank narrated by Britt Ekland if it means I can enjoy my cultural heritage.

How wonderfully insightful Jamie Theakston's observations were on I Love 1971. I certainly don't want to denigrate Jamie's contribution but I found it rather puzzling to hear him reminisces about 1971. Particularly since he wasn't born until 1973. The BBC seems intent to get the lanky shit involved in everything.

I assume that last week's 5 minutes of circa 1974 Goodies clips for a show about 1970 (the Kitten got a look in, of course) are the only sightings likely to be seen of Oddie Garden and Brooke-Taylor this decade?

For those who live outside the UK and are willing to pay, you can see The Goodies every Friday night on BBC Prime.

But not those of us who subsidise Auntie. Oh no. We'd much rather have minor celebrities who are younger than us talking excitedly for less than a minute about things that *we* only just about remember.

Clearly.

All hail Jane Root

BC Prime? where can you get that, then? I'd be ecstatic to find another BBC channel other than bbcAmerica, populated as it is with adverts for 'gator grip' and tooth-cleaning systems.

sorry, that was terribly offtopic.

So J.Theakston is the same age as me, then?

Which of us has done with their life?...Hmm...oh, I'm depressed now...

>I'd never seen Marathon Man.

It is brilliant, but I can never sit through the dentist's chair sequence again. I am a wuss, but when I saw MM on TV in 1985, I had a dental appointment just three days later. Not a pleasant experience.

My spies were wrong about next week's films, incidentally. They are actually Shaft's Big Score! (not Shaft, then) and a horror film called Asylum.

I agree about how ludicrous it is getting the opinions of people who were either around five years old in the early Seventies or werent even born then
I loved my childhood too but Im sick of all these producers in their forties and thirties constantly harping on about fucking Pans People and Choppers to the music of T-Rex
Ill tell ya, they havent even scratched the surface of the Eighties yet:
Blah,blah,pedal pushers,blah,blah Bananarama blah,blah Rubiks cube,blah blah Sam Foxs big breasts, blah blah,black furniture, Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn!
I am 34.

www.bbcprime.com has info about it, but basically it's not available in the UK. It's carried on several satellites. It's digital and encrypted. Seems to show "classic" BBC progs, ie Fools and Horses, Birds of a Feather, Goodies etc.

I can't get it myself :( If anyone knows a way that I could receive it in the UK....

"A load of wank narrated by Brit Ekland" isn't exactly how I'd like to remember the year of my birth. Sadly, "I Love 1971", like its predecessor last week, was utter pants.

Each of the subjects covered (apart from fashion - I can hear my mum's voice now saying "normal people never wore tat like that in the 70's" - fashion is for daytime TV) deserved a documentary in its own right.

It's just typical of the BBC these days that they're only prepared to devote 3 minutes to "Get Carter", "Shaft" or Oliver Postgate, rather than, say, 50.

I agree with every other point made so far in this strand. I'd also just like to reiterate how distasteful I find the sight of Ainsley Harriot or Jamie Theakston giving their ill-informed comments in these sorts of shows. Unmitigated puke and excrement showered forth from them all, and sadly it's all too readily lapped up by 90% of the viewing audience.

>www.bbcprime.com has info about it, but basically it's not available in the UK. It's carried on several satellites. It's digital and encrypted. Seems to show "classic" BBC progs, ie Fools and Horses, Birds of a Feather, Goodies etc.

Doubt it's available in the USA, otherwise I'd have seen it in the listings. Those listings magazines could be used as a doorstop.


>I can't get it myself :( If anyone knows a way that I could receive it in the UK....

Make your own decryptor?
Any idea which satellites it's carried on, so I can consult my friendly engineer? Probably impossible to get it, sadly.

>Doubt it's available in the USA, otherwise >I'd have seen it in the listings. Those >listings magazines could be used as a >doorstop.

I assumed it was available in the US, have a look on the bbc prime website and see. A quick glance at the country selector on their site seems to indicate the only country you can't officially get BBC Prime in is the UK!


>Any idea which satellites it's carried on, so I can consult my friendly engineer? Probably impossible to get it, sadly.
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http://www.sat-address.com/ab/BBC-Prime.shtml

shows the satellites it's currently being carried by. Quite a few of them, mostly Europe based but there's a couple listed their I've not heard of so maybe they're for US coverage?


I note that BBC Prime is also currently showing Bit of Fry & Laurie!

>shows the satellites it's currently being carried by. Quite a few of them, mostly Europe based but there's a couple listed their I've not heard of so maybe they're for US coverage?

I first saw BBC PRIME in 1995 in Switzerland, when it had just started. I saw a Bastardised version of 'Good Morning with Anne & Nick' with the caption 'Lines Closed' appearing every time they announced the phone number. Usually you got to see a bit of the phone number caption before it was hidden by the 'Lines Closed' one. The also had 'The Bill' omnibuses. All in all, it was similar to UK Gold, but for a European audience (all times were CET). They also had BBC WORLD NEWS and European Weather, but these have been discontinued as most people who can get the station also get BBC World. It is available across Europe on cable and some satellite, and I think it is now avialable further afield such as South Africa. They have the BBC Learning Zone at night on some versions of the channel. They also have multilingual subtitles on 886,887,888 etc.

It is not available in the US - afaik the only BBC channel available there is BBC AMERICA, though some PBS stations do take BBC WORLD NEWS.

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>I assume that last week's 5 minutes of circa 1974 Goodies clips for a show about 1970 (the Kitten got a look in, of course) are the only sightings likely to be seen of Oddie Garden and Brooke-Taylor this decade?

Clips came from 1980's 'Saturday Night Grease' too, so it covered the whole decade. It was also very supportive of a repeat run, which was surprising.

Dame rumour tells me that they were considering a ten week run of The Goodies to run alongside the pointless Seventies season. This was rejected, but I'd recommend you tune in for 1975 night. A compromise is in the offing.

>For those who live outside the UK and are willing to pay, you can see The Goodies every Friday night on BBC Prime.

Probably butchered like the UK Arena repeats, which chopped 7-8 minutes from some episodes. They also showed fourth and fifth season only. Can you tell me which ones BBC Prime are showing?

>But not those of us who subsidise Auntie. Oh no. We'd much rather have minor celebrities who are younger than us talking excitedly for less than a minute about things that *we* only just about remember.

And how pointless is that? Take for example the 1971 documentary, with Simon Donald recanting the decimal jingle, cutting back and forth to the original trailer.

TV Cream readers must be beating themselves off with naked wonder.

>All hail Jane Root

Well, quite...

From my engineer: "Astra? wow, can't believe that thing's still broadcasting!"

um... right. so I'm stuck with BBCAmerica, which is currently showing Lovejoy. Followed by Changing Rooms.

Taste my joy.

Bent Halo done:

>TV Cream readers must be beating themselves off with naked wonder.

You patronising fucker.

Get thee to MHP-chat.

Cheerio

Steve

I'm with Steve on this one - bit unfair to lump a site that's often funny, and certainly doesn't take itself too seriously, in with that shambolic, uninformative piece of rubbish BBC2 puked up on Saturday night.

Say what you like, at least TV Cream doesn't get Ainsley F***ing Harriott in to rap the Theme From Shaft. (Was Isaac Hayes THAT difficult to get for an interview?)

Justin done:

>Say what you like, at least TV Cream doesn't get Ainsley F***ing Harriott in to rap the Theme From Shaft. (Was Isaac Hayes THAT difficult to get for an interview?)

I thought I Love 1971 (the year of my birth so I did want to watch it) was pretty good, but probably for different reasons why some people think it was very bad.

I, for instance, loved the fact that Ice T was sitting in front of me trying to remember the theme tune to The Banana Splits. I loved the fact that Jamie Theakston, who was not even born in '71, was asked to comment on stuff he barely remembered. I loved Britt "The Seventies were maaaaaad!" Ekland hobbling lamely through the script - "I was in that film!".

I also loved it that some genuinely surprising archive material was dug up. I wrote straight to TV Cream and told them how much I wanked over it. Presumably because I am so easily pleased.

No, actually, I didn't do that. I watched a tape of the previous night's Channel 4 offerings, then some poor-as-hell-but-good-for-it film on BBC ONE. Presumably because I'm easily pleased.

Still, heaven forbid that television should appeal to the masses, eh? Just stick every one of the Banana Splits episodes on one after the other, preferably including the clocks and original continuity announcements, eh? For cock's sake, don't EVER try and be creative with archive material. Leave creativity to the people who made the original programmes, right?

(And do you know how much Ainsley Harriot charges these days??? Phew!)

On a similar note. I have recently had to sit through about six episodes of the original 'Adventure Game' series (one of the most fondly remembered programmes of my childhood) and it was one of the most boring things I've ever had to do. How 30 mins can be made to feel like one hour I think is a work of supreme genius.

Cheerio

Steve
http://tv.cream.org (for masturbatory pleasure)
http://www.offthetelly.com (for a review of 'I Love The '70s')

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>>But not those of us who subsidise Auntie. Oh no. We'd much rather have minor celebrities who are younger than us talking excitedly for less than a minute about things that *we* only just about remember.
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Actually some of us can remember them rather too well

>Still, heaven forbid that television should appeal to the masses, eh? Just stick every one of the Banana Splits episodes on one after the other, preferably including the clocks and original continuity announcements, eh?

Very controversial, I wonder if it will catch on...

>For cock's sake, don't EVER try and be creative with archive material. Leave creativity to the people who made the original programmes, right?

I have no problem with any of your comments Steve, very witty if I may say so, I just take issue with Ainsley Harriot, and the fact that they squeeze so much in to these shows they don't do the subject matter justice - they're too shallow for my taste. Why not devote a whole documentary to Shaft? Richard Roundtree looked like a really cool bloke and I'd have liked to hear more of what he had to say.

Hello Simon (not James), you done:

>I have no problem with any of your comments Steve, very witty if I may say so, I just take issue with Ainsley Harriot

And who can blame you? Funny that they had Ice T on, though, eh? Still makes me laugh, that.

> and the fact that they squeeze so much in to these shows they don't do the subject matter justice - they're too shallow for my taste.

I appreciate what you're saying but, to be ruthlessly honest, it's hard to be deadly serious about spacehoppers. These programmes are ostensibly about ephemera, but I still think that they do a good job with the film research.

>Why not devote a whole documentary to Shaft? Richard Roundtree looked like a really cool bloke and I'd have liked to hear more of what he had to say.

Yeh, you're probably right about Shaft, though. Perhaps when the Samuel L Jackson film comes out, there will be one. I doubt it, though, don't you?

Cheerio

Steve

>to be ruthlessly honest, it's hard to be deadly serious about spacehoppers. These programmes are ostensibly about ephemera,

Excuse me, but I take spacehoppers very seriously indeed - the silhouette behind that bloke who invented them looked really scary, like a nightmare creature out of a Jacques Tourneur film... I can see it now - "Curse of the Giant Demon Space Hopper"

>but I still think that they do a good job with the film research.

Yeah, quite a good job, I agree

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