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What the fuck - TV Go Home comes from the same people who brought you the (bo)11ocs? But... but... how the hell did this happen? How come one's sublime and the other is nothing short of an atrocity? It's not *entirely* down to Iain "Mr Comedy" Lee...

The link is perfectly obvious - both are simple, perfectly good formats, flogged to death until your brains leak out of your ears in an attempt to escape further boredom.

Except 11OCS was never funny.

How can a TV version of 'TVGoHome' ever work?

The humour comes from the RT format, and the comedy is very 'wordy'... it'd be at least as bad as the original R4 version of 'Whose Line Is It Anyway?', which was quite dull, actually.

From the website that gave us such classics as...

"3:20am Smiley's Tractors: This week, Carol tells us why she saves the 1976 Leyland L55 for muck-spreading and other demanding tasks."

Again, you've missed the point. TV Go Home is FUNNY.

Yes, terribly funny, in that formulaic mindless endlessly repeating broken record surrealism-by-numbers post-On-The-Hour rude-words-minor-celebs not-actually-funny type way.

>Yes, terribly funny, in that formulaic mindless endlessly repeating broken record surrealism-by-numbers post-On-The-Hour rude-words-minor-celebs not-actually-funny type way.

Depends - I reckon "Fozzie Bear's Eisteddfod Of Doom" is pretty hard to beat.

Petey O; let's make a deal. You write a TVGH entry that isn't rubbish, and I'll stop doing the website (since it annoys you so much).

After much agony, I have finally decided that 'Buzz Buzz Meadowmouth Vonnegut Assignment' is the funniest TvGoHome I've read.

In case it bothered you, CB, all I was saying above was that I didn't think the idea would transfer. I think it's brilliant in its present state.

Y thangyew. Proposed TV incarnation of TVGH quite different to the 'print' version, because most of the 'jokes' would fall flat if actually 'shown'. So it'll be the same, but very very different, if that makes sense.

I'm still reeling from the fact that you were also (partly) responsible for the 11 O'Clock atrocity. Any concern about a TV transfer for the sublime TVGH probably reflects a deep-seated anxiety that it will turn out along the same lines...

It won't.

Well... if you're sure.

oops. that was me. yes. it won't.

So how DID the 11ocs turn out so bad? Was it just the performers (SB-C excepted)? Or was there a core of writers who were convinced that their "bender" jokes were actually hilarious?

>Petey O; let's make a deal. You write a TVGH entry that isn't rubbish, and I'll stop doing the website (since it annoys you so much).

I've got another idea - you write a page full of entries that aren't rubbish, and then you'll have a decent reason for continuing with the website, and I won't be annoyed at all.

I actually just genuinely bothered to wait for the current edition to download. WHY?!? You're all just trying to trick me into waiting for a worthless bitmap to materialise, aren't you? Need I add that my opinion hasn't shifted very much based on what I just read.

11:20am Bleasdale's Birdbath Bonanza - the gruff playwright shows us how to get the oil off a seagull.

>11:20am Bleasdale's Birdbath Bonanza - the gruff playwright shows us how to get the oil off a seagull.

Yeah, yeah, and anyone can write a Monty Python sketch, and anyone could have thought up all that stuff in Blue Jam, and anyone could do that Skinner & Baddiel Unplanned thing and be funny.

I know that to your ears you're savagely parodying the style and content of TV Go Home, but to everyone else you're just sounding like a bit of a tit.

>>11:20am Bleasdale's Birdbath Bonanza - the gruff playwright shows us how to get the oil off a seagull.
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>Yeah, yeah, and anyone can write a Monty Python sketch, and anyone could have thought up all that stuff in Blue Jam, and anyone could do that Skinner & Baddiel Unplanned thing and be funny.
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>I know that to your ears you're savagely parodying the style and content of TV Go Home, but to everyone else you're just sounding like a bit of a tit.

Ahhh I see! Yes, of course, it is a funny website after all! Because otherwise, I'd be a tit. Thanks for explaining.

Peter, if you want to see "minor-celebrity-swearword" type humour, go to the Gusset or Gorilla Salad or something. Then look at TVGoHome. See the difference? See how the preoccupations of current TV are satirised in TVGoHome? See how it's not just the "Johnny Ball Wanking Trout" stuff (THOSE kind of jokes) like you write? See how stuff like "Barnaby's Twat" ("Ainsley's Big Cock Out") is specifically excluded from submission in the guidelines? See how some of the stuff in TVGoHome is genuinely misanthropic and unsettling?
Well, I guess not.

I've only been reading it for the past month or so, there are a lot of past issues I haven't seen yet. But I did flick back to the 1st once, and it struck me that the style must have taken a while to evolve.

I'm sorry. I'm a fucking idiot. I only have a go at TVGH because I'm jealous.

Apologies.

Let's talk about something else.

>I'm sorry. I'm a fucking idiot. I only have a go at TVGH because I'm jealous.
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>Apologies.
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>Let's talk about something else.

Ooh, he's a proper Charlie!

I really liked the first few editions (maybe eight or nine) - made me laugh out loud. Call me a fan, please. But try as I might, I can't find any merit in the latest one (for example) though the same problem applies to quite a few recent ones. I look forward to the forthcoming TV show as I think you need a change of format to rediscover what you were doing originally, i.e. being genuinely angry about crap stuff and funny at the same time. (Unlike many people I enjoyed some of the 11 o'clock show.) So don't take this personally. Anyway, if I were you, I wouldn't bother responding in person to a nobody like me... "ignore them and they will go away." Chill out, and so on.