11 O' Clock Show IS Coming Back Posted Sat Jul 15 17:16:11 BST 2000 by Sybil

They've done it. A new series of 11OCS is being planned. This isn't idle gossip - myself and my writing partner were called to a meeting to discuss it.

Apparently, this reincarnation of the worst show on television will centre on Iain Lee. It seems that the producers want to move away from newsroom conceit, and make the show more generally satirical - perhaps focusing on one or two topics of public concern each week. You see, what Chris Morris does, Iain Lee takes and extends : I'm sure, though, that this change of tack has only a superficial similarity to the change evidenced between TDT and BrassEye.

TalkBack (or should we now honestly say Pearson?) are still more than a little concerned about things, though. The consideration of recommissioning the show in the face of almost universal opprobrium was made possible by a hard core of about 1.5M viewers - mostly adolescent. Now that the astonishing Miss Donovan has disappeared into a cloud of her own unpleasantness, bosses are worried that she will take her army of adoring teenage masturbators with her - leaving Lee to just look iller and iller.

We were assured that producers 'wanted to move away from the knob-gags'. Fat chance.

I'm really sorry to break this bad news. 'Something Must Be Done', but what (apart from refusing to write for it)?


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Posted By Slightly_outrageous on Sat Jul 15 17:21:05 BST 2000:

..& that's my take on the matter...


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Posted By NF on Sat Jul 15 21:28:12 BST 2000:

why? why?

How do these shows keep getting commissioned. Why do show like Pay and Display ever get show. Does no one ever read these scripts and say THIS IS SIMPLY A PILE OF SH*T, no they just keep on giving money to muppets


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Posted By PJ on Sat Jul 15 21:35:06 BST 2000:

Hey everyone, let's wank... over a piece of paper and call it a half hour satirical comedy show.


Why would they make a new series? It defies logic. Universally slated, and 1.5 million viewers is hardly a lot. The mentality of the team behing the show is astonishing - do they really think a slightly changed format will intereast anyone.
So, another series to porve how shit the show is then. Let's hope, Unlike Lee, they actually learn what's fucking funny this time.


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Posted By Gee on Sat Jul 15 22:02:50 BST 2000:

1.5 million viewers tuned in for Ali G, not Lee.


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Posted By Nunuf Urbuznuz on Mon Jul 17 11:50:39 BST 2000:

In no way defending 11ocs, but bitching about the viewing figures isn't good form, chaps. If it was an opera or a religious prog. you wouldn't be as worried. What I'm trying to say is - it keeps them off the streets, you know?


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Posted By Jon on Mon Jul 17 12:24:14 BST 2000:

Who - the writers or the audience?

Certainly not Lee and Donovan - they have to go out to do those rubbish Chris Morris rip-offs.


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Posted By Mogwai on Tue Jul 18 08:26:47 BST 2000:

Looking forward to Iain Lee's new series, 'Marmalade', an unsettling collection of darkly comic sketches about depression, illness, suicide, perversion and death, all featuring Iain Lee and all, oddly, involving wanking.


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Posted By TJ on Tue Jul 18 09:27:12 BST 2000:

Yeah... I've heard that "Marmalade" will feature a weird ambient experimental soundtrack including tracks by The Corrs, Robbie Williams, FR David and Mogwai.


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Posted By Jon on Tue Jul 18 11:23:12 BST 2000:

Just wait for the late-night version, "marmmmm", which will have specially treated visuals, a distorted soundtrack, and a worse script than the normal version. And you'll have to get up at 4.30am to discover these things.


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Posted By Nunuf on Tue Jul 18 12:14:21 BST 2000:

It's Lemon Curd, you bastards. And I'm only doing a couple of bits.


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Posted By Jon on Tue Jul 18 12:52:11 BST 2000:

Put some jokes in them, Nunuf, so we can spot which ones are yours.


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Posted By Nunuf Urbuznuz on Wed Jul 19 11:57:54 BST 2000:

Jon you've missed the point. The idea is not to put jokes in, but to get the word "bender" into a story about, say, green tomato ketchup.

You should try some yourself, Jon, it's humilliating, but the money's not bad.


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Posted By Jon on Wed Jul 19 16:08:38 BST 2000:

Do you speak from experience, Nunuf?


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Posted By Peter Ohanraohanrahan on Wed Jul 19 20:10:17 BST 2000:

I honestly think the whole 11 o'clock show "it's-okay-to-be-a-comedy-bigot' thing is derived from that one moment in Brass Eye where CM made that throwaway comment about how certain people couldn't be trusted to take drugs carefully, including "blacks." But CM would never, ever, ever, do a (say) Guardian interview explaining that it was targeted at pompous media types, not at stereotyping blacks as hopeless drug addicts (because he shouldn't have to, on principle, like Morrissey), and so idiots like the 11 o'clock show "team of rogues" are free to completely miss the point.


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Posted By Jon on Thu Jul 20 07:23:32 BST 2000:

Here you go, Nunuf:

Iain: And what's in the news this week, daisy?

Daisy: This week Heinz launched their new range of green tomato ketchup.

IL: Green ketchup, eh? What else is special about it?

DD: Well, they say it flows straight form the bottle...

IL: STRAIGHT from the bottle, eh? [To audience, briskly, a la Angus Deayton:] Won't appeal to any benders, then....




Will that do?


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Posted By Peter Ohanraohanrahan on Thu Jul 20 09:34:29 BST 2000:

Iain: Good news...

Daisey: There's a Gay Pride march through london tomorrow, to raise awareness and promote tolerance. Bad news...

Iain: They all take it up the shitter and should be publically roasted on spits.

(audience collapses in hysterics)


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Posted By PJ on Fri Jul 21 15:42:02 BST 2000:

Ian: Daisy, you look a bit pale... are you feeling alright?

Diasy: Sorry, i've spent the weekend on a massive bender...

Ian: Eurgh, you dyke! get away from me you carpet muncher!!

(He looks at the audience with a cheeky ironic grin, and Daisy can't contain her laughter. The audience piss themselves.)

I've used that joke before - and is was rubbish then as well.


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Posted By Jon on Sat Jul 22 11:17:38 BST 2000:

What does it mean - 'carpet muncher'?


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Posted By Nunuf Urbuznuz on Mon Jul 24 11:33:40 BST 2000:

I resign.


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Posted By Alan on Mon Jul 24 12:20:08 BST 2000:

We accept your resignation.


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Posted By Peter Ohanraohanrahan on Mon Jul 24 17:18:26 BST 2000:

Aha, aha, you could say we're all "resigned" to the fact that it won't be a funny show, aha, aha...


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Posted By Pink Moon on Tue Jul 25 23:59:59 BST 2000:

>Aha, aha, you could say we're all "resigned" to the fact that it won't be a funny show, aha, aha...

Congratulations, Peter. You have a succesful career awaiting you as Iain Lee's chief gag writer.


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Posted By Peter Ohanraohanrahan on Wed Jul 26 21:43:59 BST 2000:

>>Aha, aha, you could say we're all "resigned" to the fact that it won't be a funny show, aha, aha...
>
>Congratulations, Peter. You have a succesful career awaiting you as Iain Lee's chief gag writer.

Shoot me now... and I don't mean up the arse with your big cock (winks to camera.)


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Posted By Mogwai on Wed Jul 26 22:54:14 BST 2000:

>(winks to camera)

Insert lame "misprint" gag here:_________________________


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Posted By Nunuf Urbuznuz on Thu Jul 27 12:26:49 BST 2000:

Enough already.


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Posted By Jon on Thu Jul 27 13:02:56 BST 2000:

I feel sorry for old IL, seeing as one of his gag-writers is slagging him off on the internet, yet happily takes the money for all the old rope he gives him. How do you sleep, Nunuf?


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Posted By Mogwai on Thu Jul 27 13:46:34 BST 2000:

Give him enough old rope to hang himself with. You don't have to like someone to work for them and take their money, as I believe most of us can probably testify...


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Jul 28 10:42:07 BST 2000:

Is it true incredible stand up Mike Gunn even writes stuff for the show?


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Posted By Mogwai on Fri Jul 28 11:54:17 BST 2000:

You'd be surprised how many good people have a hand in some of the worst sketch shows. Do you KNOW how much these things pay? Some of the most talented comedy writers have palmed off bottom drawer stuff - which even their mates wouldn't laugh politely at - on dross like Hale & Pace, and saved their best material for shows they really care about...


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Posted By Jon on Fri Jul 28 12:45:16 BST 2000:

"Do you KNOW how much these things pay?"

Go on, tell us - we may yet have to change our jobs..


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Posted By kinder surprise on Fri Jul 28 17:09:10 BST 2000:

I guess even comedians have to eat. We shouldn't be so judgemental.


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Posted By Nunuf Urbuznuz on Sat Jul 29 23:38:13 BST 2000:

Simple, really, Jon, I don't like the guy.
PS. The 11ocs pay fifty quid for a joke.


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Posted By Peter Ohanraohanrahan on Sun Jul 30 17:51:51 BST 2000:

And for a hand job?


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Posted By subbes on Sun Jul 30 23:22:42 BST 2000:

Somewhere near 50,000 would get me doing it.

...though if it were Iain Lee...


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Posted By Sue Denime on Mon Jul 31 00:06:52 BST 2000:

>Somewhere near 50,000 would get me doing it.
>
>...though if it were Iain Lee...

The going rate is "all the ice cream you can eat, son", apparently.


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Posted By Jon on Mon Jul 31 08:33:06 BST 2000:

"I guess even comedians have to eat."

I thought they lived off the rays of natural goodness and fun shining out of their hearts.

Since I started reading SOTCAA, I have discovered this is a very naive view.


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Posted By Peter Ohanraohanrahan on Mon Jul 31 20:19:00 BST 2000:

Hold on to that feeling, Jon. It makes you special, and that's what counts in this mixed up world we live in.


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