Clever people. Posted Mon Jun 12 16:26:53 BST 2000 by burdock

Quite simple really, this strand was designed for clever people. So anyone in here who's clever, please post here.

Thanx,

burdock.


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Posted By Albert Einstein on Mon Jun 12 17:12:24 BST 2000:

E = mc^2


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Posted By newton on Mon Jun 12 17:16:19 BST 2000:

f = ma


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Posted By fermat on Mon Jun 12 17:17:26 BST 2000:

a^x = b^x + c^x where x = 2


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Posted By burdock on Mon Jun 12 17:29:29 BST 2000:

Yeah well that's all very well, but what ya gonna do??

Any more clever people here... Preferably genuine forum users (come on, i know your out there, somewhere!)


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Posted By someone cleverer on Mon Jun 12 17:58:26 BST 2000:

Newton never actually specified the formula F=ma.

And that "Fermat" equation is Pythagoras. Fermat's is similar, but x is NOT equal to 2, the idea being that no integers can satisfy the equation for x>2.


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Posted By burdock on Mon Jun 12 18:09:30 BST 2000:


So this is what being clever is all about is it??


The understanding of triangles??


So maybe that's what all those UFO's were going on about.


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Posted By subbes on Mon Jun 12 18:38:16 BST 2000:

But why ask for clever people? all you'd get in reply were postings like the above. unl;ess you had some really odd people who were liable to reply "eat of glass"...


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Posted By High IQ on Tue Jun 13 00:43:17 BST 2000:

Two hours ago I dropped some acid. I can see the answer to all your questions. Everything is before. I'm now in a time before the languages were mixed. All nations speak one tongue. Nature sings to me. My cat and I have made a connection. I read her mind and she helps me with my love life. But now I must fix my mind on the question: clever people. What do you mean by clever? Some people think Jim Davidson is a talented and clever comedian. Some people think him a twat. Who is right? As I see it now, both are right. He is one thing to one group and another to another. What of the young and gifted Chris Evans? Is he clever? To some people he is an irritating sexist; to others he is a jumped up shit; some just find him plain boring. But to himself he is a dude. What about Hitler? Was this Devil clever? No. The funniest thing about Hitler was that he had this strange habit of making 'predictions.' He would say: �Today it will either rain or it will not.� And �We will either win this war or we shall lose it.� I am reaching a new state. I am on the brink of something glorious. My thoughts whisk. One idea is blending into another. If the world could share this mind treat.


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Posted By Al on Tue Jun 13 08:56:04 BST 2000:

Do you need any more evidence?
Kids - don't do it.


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Posted By Nik on Tue Jun 13 12:45:40 BST 2000:

>Some people think Jim Davidson is a talented and clever comedian. Some people think him a twat. Who is right? As I see it now, both are right. He is one thing to one group and another to another.

But one group is wrong.


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Posted By Anonymous on Tue Jun 13 17:20:18 BST 2000:

But the point is, there's no one outside either group, so there's no arbiter of right and wrong.












Except me. Jim Davidson is a cunt.


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Posted By burdock on Tue Jun 13 20:29:01 BST 2000:

It all seems like a battleground really, you are all at ethereal battle with stars you don't even really know. Images on your TV screen. The said entertainer either passes through to your love G spot, or you are repulsed. When repulsed by any said big shot, you then complain, slate, in an attempt to get rid of. Its all your humble drive, desire for evolution. It's your wish to be controlled, to have it all handed to you on a plate.


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Posted By Nik on Wed Jun 14 08:20:30 BST 2000:

Yeah, but Jim Davidson's still a cunt.


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Posted By Nik on Wed Jun 14 08:21:57 BST 2000:

(I realise that's not within the spirit of the site, i.e. explaining *why* a comedian is a cunt, but surely there are some exceptions?)


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Posted By �euf on Wed Jun 14 15:24:36 BST 2000:

Agreed, Jim Davidson is a cunt.


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Posted By Jim Davidson MBE on Wed Jun 14 16:23:31 BST 2000:

Oi stop it now stop it. You've had your fun at my expensive now run along sonny or you'll get a bit of what I give the old girlfriend. That's not 'slap and tickle' either. That's slaps. No-one calls me a **** and gets a way with it. Listen boy, I've got mates in the paras and mates in the police (I'm King of the Magic Handshake don't forget) if legs need to be broken � it'll happen. No one comes looking for me. You're in hospital and I'm in the clear. That's not a threat, that's a fact. No one takes the piss out of me. I've revived panto. I've kept the Generation Game successful. I've married some of the most beautiful women in Essex. When a women's on my arm she knows what she's in for. I don't and never have done gone in for all this political correctness: when a girl says no she means no; what rubbish. She just needs bringing round. Maybe she needs more drink or if she's awkward, something slipped in it. I don't know whatever it takes. I'll think you'll find that I'm not such a ogre after all.


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Posted By mk on Fri Jun 16 15:14:30 BST 2000:

Burdock, what kind of clevewr conversations were you expecting?
and "high iq", where dya get the acid I havent been able to get any for years...!


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Posted By mk on Tue Jun 20 19:02:32 BST 2000:

on a different note,
If you put a rope right round the planet, it would be quite long.
How much longer do you reckon it would have to be if it was suspended a foot above the ground all the way?


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Posted By Jase on Tue Jun 20 20:15:02 BST 2000:

2*pi(r+1), r measured in feet.


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Posted By opium fruits on Thu Jun 22 12:25:37 BST 2000:

I love burdock. I prefer looks over intelligence.


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Posted By mk on Thu Jun 22 14:02:10 BST 2000:

> 2*pi(r+1), r measured in feet.

if you mean r is radius from earths centre then: nope


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Posted By Nik on Thu Jun 22 21:30:57 BST 2000:

>> 2*pi(r+1), r measured in feet.
>
>if you mean r is radius from earths centre then: nope

(2*pi(r+1))-(2*pi*r)?


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Posted By mk on Tue Jun 27 09:56:14 BST 2000:

> (2*pi(r+1))-(2*pi*r)?

yes!

or 6.284 feet to put it another way.


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Posted By Loretta Starz on Thu Jun 29 00:30:06 BST 2000:

Mornington Crescent!

(ouch)


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Posted By Nik on Thu Jun 29 20:57:05 BST 2000:

>Mornington Crescent!

Are diagonals allowed then?


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Posted By Jase on Thu Jun 29 22:50:31 BST 2000:

Dah bollox! I misread the question. Yes I did know that, just the answer I gave was the total length of the rope 1 foot up. Never mind.

Yes, the answer is 6.28, or 2*pi to be exact, cos the equation simplifies. However if you take into account the elasticity of the rope, then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't need it to be *any* longer...

All this is of course assuming the world is a perfect sphere, which it isn't.

Anyway, you could get a length of rope of almost zero length and it would work for this question. Since you never said "how long would the rope have to be to go round the world's *equator*", so it could go round the world nearer and nearer one of the poles, parallel with the equator, and the length of the rope would tend to zero as you got nearer the pole. Of course it would never reach zero as when it becomes a point it's not going round the world anymore...


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Posted By mk on Fri Jun 30 08:45:56 BST 2000:

I suppose that last bit depends on the diameter of the pole. I always imagine it to be a red n white stripey barber type pole of maybe 6 inches in diameter. : )
anyway the clever bit is realising that the equation simplifies and the R's cancel out so the extra length of rope required is not proportional to the original length. and so any size sphere can be used in the question or anything circular for that matter.
Whats a mornington crescent?

also the worlds not spherical due to centrifugal force so if it was round the equator originally you could probably get it a foot off the ground by going pole to pole instead with the same length.

anyhoo , have you heard the one about four guys crossing a bridge at night with a torch? apparently microsoft use it as part of their entry exam. oops, gotta go, meeting wid da boss..


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Posted By mk on Fri Jun 30 11:27:57 BST 2000:

try this...
Four guys have to get over a rickety bridge at night.
Narrow bridge, only two can go at a time.
They have one torch, it must be used at all times (it has to be brought back for next guy)
The blokes names are A, B, C & D
A takes 10 minutes to cross
B takes 5 mins
C takes 2 mins
D takes 1 min
when two go at same time they take the time of the slowest.
and they only have 17 minutes to cross the bridge:
what order do they go in?

p.s. Theres NO swimming, throwing the torch, piggybacks ,helicopters, ropes or any tricks like that - it's just a matter of moving people in the right order..

example if 5minguy and 2minguy cross, it'll take 5 mins, then one of em has to bring the torch back for the others.

you may begin....


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Posted By Sorrel on Fri Jun 30 12:25:51 BST 2000:

Surely this can't be done in less than 19 mins as each member of the team has to cross at least once.

Ah well I always was crap at things like this


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Posted By mk on Fri Jun 30 12:53:25 BST 2000:

no it can be done, honest, think harder...
remember: no tricks - just move them in the right order.


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Posted By Sorrel on Fri Jun 30 16:45:43 BST 2000:

>A takes 10 minutes to cross
>B takes 5 mins
>C takes 2 mins
>D takes 1 min
>>what order do they go in?

Done it:

C+ D -> D returns
A+B -> C returns
C+D

Am I right?


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Posted By mk on Sun Jul 2 17:29:35 BST 2000:

>Am I right?

yup! well done.
pick a prize from the middle shelf!


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Posted By Sorrel on Sun Jul 2 19:43:41 BST 2000:

Ooh goody, another inflatable hammer!


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