The Simpsons Posted Fri Jun 9 23:53:05 BST 2000 by Mike Parker

Does anybody else think that The Simpsons has gone off a bit lately? I hate to say it, but it's got tired and somewhat predictable. The character writing isn't as strong as it used to be, and the plots smack of barrel scraping.
Futurama seeems a lot fresher to me.




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Posted By Homer J Simpsoy on Sat Jun 10 00:00:19 BST 2000:

Well we wouldn't know, it's still 1995 here.

Check 'mmmmmmmm floor pie' and 'Deviliciously satirical'


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Posted By John! on Sat Jun 10 00:04:53 BST 2000:

1995.

That was 5 years ago, man.


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Posted By subbes on Sat Jun 10 00:32:34 BST 2000:

The newer ones are occasionally amusing: vis "ToMacco", and generally hovering at "better than turning over to watch buffy" level. Futurama's US viewing figures plummeted after series one, i'm sad to say. FOX seems to have a bit of a problem with sceduling it, keeps moving it about in the scedules (very like they do with Family Guy - slated to be moving to ABC. dear god noooooooooooo...), so no wonder it gets poor ratings.


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Posted By johnny banana on Wed Jun 14 15:09:44 BST 2000:

>1995.
>
>That was 5 years ago, man.

that's the tight BBC for ya


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Posted By RobKins (patent pending) on Sun Jun 18 09:14:48 BST 2000:

the ironic thing that unlike nearly every single other TV cartoon show ever, the simpsons 1st couple of series were actually pretty poor, very crudely animated and the plots were about as funny as Dame Cartland.
Yet since this was pre"do the bartman" i'd presume most of it's fanbase was in early teens and didn't care about this, by the time they had grown up a little and the annoying mainstream boom phase ended the animation and quality had leaped
in fact seasons 4-6 were just amazing quality wise, compare that to say Friends' recent series which have been rather 'scraping the barrel' jokeswise
yeah it's kinda losing steam now but being so consistantly funny for so long is a really rare occurance

*glances sidewards*
oh ok i'll go then


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Posted By johnny banana on Mon Jun 19 11:43:13 BST 2000:

is it me or is bart & maggie appearing less and less in the simpsons now. also all the characters seem to act corruptly even marge


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Posted By John! on Mon Jun 19 18:30:20 BST 2000:

Perhaps the main problem is they're running out of ideas.

Watching new episodes, it really shows how desperate they're getting. It's understandable I suppose.

Still very funny though.


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Posted By Justin on Mon Jun 19 22:12:01 BST 2000:

I know the animation on the early episodes has been given a (justifiably) good kicking on various threads, but the scripts are another matter. I saw The Telltale Head on BBC2 for the first time in about 4-5 years tonight, and I thought it was pretty funny. Yes, alright, compared with the multi-layered reference stuff of later seasons, it's much more straightforward sitcom fare. But you have to establish characters and situations before you start inventing increasingly surreal happenings for them.

So yes - animation ropey, but scripts not so bad. Also, there were most definitely not 20 writers kicking ideas around a room in those early days. Look at how few producers were credited back then. Or the lack of credits like "consulting producers".

And also: "Crepes Of Wrath" (French exchange episode). That was first season, wasn't it? That was ace.


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Posted By Blake Connolly on Tue Jun 20 09:37:27 BST 2000:

Being far away from Blighty as I now am, it's pretty amazing just how much is cut for our benifit. I mean I knew it was cut but seeing the episodes in full now, it's like watching all new episodes again.


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Posted By mk on Tue Jun 20 18:00:25 BST 2000:

IT'S CUT??????
those barstuds!
you mean bbc or sky?

btw, does anyone not like the simpsons?


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Posted By John! on Tue Jun 20 19:44:24 BST 2000:

Both the BBC and Sky cut the show to ribbons.

Oh, and yes, there are people who don't like The Simpsons, but they tend not to mention it. One did to me at work the other day, and I was quite taken aback.

Oh, and 'Sam Brady', of ITV Teletext fame, reckons it 'sucks'.


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Posted By johnny banana on Wed Jun 21 13:03:25 BST 2000:

>Both the BBC and Sky cut the show to ribbons.
>
actually BBC don't on marge the cop when she chases snake down the ally on sky she just hits him, on BBC 2 he pulls out his knife and trys getting marge with it and then she hits him. this episode was very diffrent on BBC 2

also later on in the episode when cheif wiggum tells them it takes a weekend to get the police badge on sky it cuts to marge training but on BBC 2 a man starts shouting like a maniac and then it goes to marge training.

BBC have also put back in the words bastards & freaking and also scenes that were cut out on sky one. I know i got a freind of mine to record them for me and then half of them where re shown on BBc 2 a week later


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Posted By RobKins on Wed Jun 21 15:45:27 BST 2000:

the most ridiculous simpsons cuts seem to be always Princess Diana related (did they cut that one in which Homer sneaks out of work to go to the Duff Brewery and Barney says "hey is that princess diana?... oh no it was just a bunch of rags" ?)

although the joy of sect episode did feature Bart with a case of mischievous devices which said something like "lil' bastard" on it


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Posted By Pink Moon on Wed Jun 21 15:56:05 BST 2000:

>Both the BBC and Sky cut the show to ribbons.
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>Oh, and yes, there are people who don't like The Simpsons, but they tend not to mention it. One did to me at work the other day, and I was quite taken aback.
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>Oh, and 'Sam Brady', of ITV Teletext fame, reckons it 'sucks'.

Now, there's no excuse for that. Hating the Simpson's is a very alien concept to me. To quote Homer, "It works on so many levels!", from basic slapstick to topical satire, although with suprisingly few toilet gags (something that Southpark should take note of.)
Did Mr Brady explain why it "sucks"? Somehow I doubt it. Teletext critics don't usually stretch themselves to producing detailed analysis.


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Posted By John! on Wed Jun 21 16:27:31 BST 2000:

The BBC may be better than Sky in terms of cuttage action, but it still cuts it.

Which in itself is bad-oh.

And Sam Brady didn't give a reason for hating The Simpsons, he just said 'it sucks'.

It's still the second, or perhaps third best show in the world ever though.


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Posted By Suiii on Wed Jun 21 17:15:25 BST 2000:

Bring back Sam Brady, he's better than that absolute cunt they employ now.

And how can anyone with any sense not like The Simpsons?
*baffled*


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Posted By PJ on Wed Jun 21 17:22:08 BST 2000:

It's lucky Sam Brady is just a Teletext critic - he appears to have no mouth, and just a moustache

Obviously they should bring him back - he never liked anything, meaning his page was always a joy to read.


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Posted By John! on Wed Jun 21 19:16:12 BST 2000:

I can think of only a handful of programmes he actually liked.

Frasier.
At Home With The Braithwaites.
The League of Gentlemen.


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Posted By Ben on Wed Jun 21 23:20:11 BST 2000:

>> Teletext critics don't usually stretch themselves to producing detailed analysis.

While Mr Brady's behaviour sickens me on so many levels, it's really only fair to point out that, on Teletext there isn't really the space for any more than;
"They are Yellow, There are 5 of them. It sucks. I like Raspberry Jelly. Ooh look! A flying zebra!"



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Posted By jock mc cock on Fri Jun 23 10:40:20 BST 2000:

>I can think of only a handful of programmes he actually liked.
>
>Frasier.
>At Home With The Braithwaites.
>The League of Gentlemen.

all of them are crap except fraiser has its moments


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Posted By John! on Fri Jun 23 16:13:09 BST 2000:

Frasier (see the 'i'?) is the best programme ever.

And The League of Gentlemen is pure genius.

At Home With The Braithwaites was simply wonderful.


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Posted By Suiii on Sun Jun 25 16:22:13 BST 2000:

TLoG is stunning, AHWTB had lezbiots in it, and DHP is fantabulous, 'nuff said.


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Posted By John! on Sun Jun 25 18:55:29 BST 2000:

Also, DHP is just about the most beautiful man in existence.


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Posted By Blake Connolly on Tue Jun 27 08:01:48 BST 2000:

Useless triva:

Sam Brady is the alter-ego of the editor of Oracle's old TV+, Steve Regan.


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Posted By John! on Tue Jun 27 16:12:17 BST 2000:

Well I never!


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Posted By Sil on Thu Jun 29 18:53:39 BST 2000:

Ooh look mummy! Cheese!
Icky icky icky poof! F'tung!


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Posted By mk on Fri Jun 30 13:20:19 BST 2000:

ah the sci-fi forum returns!


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Posted By John! on Fri Jun 30 19:12:42 BST 2000:

That was excellent!


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Posted By Ben on Sat Jul 1 23:39:18 BST 2000:

Ruh-toot

Squeelookle

Hanunga!


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Posted By John! on Sun Jul 2 01:55:11 BST 2000:

I know that, but can't think where it's from.


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Posted By Suiii on Sun Jul 2 02:54:44 BST 2000:

Your cavernous arse dear?


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Posted By John! on Sun Jul 2 12:52:25 BST 2000:

No!

Now I remember, and it's from the attrocious Seventh Season of Red Dwarf.


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