Two Ronnies - Not the 9 o'clock - Lee and Herring Posted Sun Jun 4 14:23:48 BST 2000 by Joe

Anyone noticed how thw two ronnies were parodied in the 80's by not the nine o clock news, and in turn, smith and jones were parodied by lee and herring in the 90's. Who, i wonder, will mock the great L&H in the future. Will it be you?


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Posted By Anonymous on Sun Jun 4 14:44:19 BST 2000:

No. I don't think so.


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Posted By Anonymous on Sun Jun 4 14:48:49 BST 2000:

Not even for a million ducks.


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Posted By Anonymous on Sun Jun 4 14:48:56 BST 2000:

i meant bucks.


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Posted By Justin on Sun Jun 4 16:31:30 BST 2000:

>Anyone noticed how thw two ronnies were parodied in the 80's by not the nine o clock news,

In the early 80s, I saw them parodied by, of all people, The Grumbleweeds, who kept going on about Gerard Wiley's scripts to the sound of a Granada TV audience scratching their heads.

and in turn, smith and jones were parodied by lee and herring in the 90's.

You might argue that S&J parodied themselves on Alas S&J where they basically slated that World According To...series they'd just done for LWT. Whereupon they became unfunny overnight.

Alas was good up till about 1987, then (first three series, I think). Unusually good quality songs too.


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Posted By Jon on Sun Jun 4 17:58:49 BST 2000:

The first series of 'Alas...' (83/84 - can't remember) was weak, only a couple of decent sketches. Much better 85 through to 89, as I remember, but, yes, they did go off in the 90s. Does anyone remember the Mel Smith sitcom 'Colin's Sandwich' that was hyped to death, did 2 series? I never saw it, but I heard it turned out to be cack.

Anyway, L&H didn't mock S&J, did they? I saw hardly any of 'Fist Of Fun', but there was just a passing comment about the amount of adverts they do, on TMWRNJ.


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Posted By Jon on Sun Jun 4 18:00:02 BST 2000:

I predict that Matt Holness and Richard Ayaoude (or whatever) will parody L&H, to cover their tracks.


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Posted By Joe on Sun Jun 4 18:05:32 BST 2000:


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>Anyway, L&H didn't mock S&J, did they? I saw hardly any of 'Fist Of Fun', but there was just a passing comment about the amount of adverts they do, on TMWRNJ.


On the TMWRNJ 'film endings' bit, L and H played S and J in some dodgy sci-fi comdey type film,(i can't remember what, fortunately), where at the end S and J handed back their wages and apologised.


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Posted By Justin on Sun Jun 4 18:35:26 BST 2000:


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>Anyway, L&H didn't mock S&J, did they? I saw hardly any of 'Fist Of Fun', but there was just a passing comment about the amount of adverts they do, on TMWRNJ.

In L&H's 1995 Radio 1 series, Sally Phillips read out a listing (in the style of those in their book and the end credits of FOF) about a Smith & Jones Ghost Train-type ride, in which you could see a tableau of images from NOt, followed by lots of two-handers "ripped off from Peter Cook & Dudley Moore" and references to Hale & Pace reject scripts. ONly have faint memories of this - my taped copy has gone awol.


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Posted By Ana Ng on Sun Jun 4 18:58:08 BST 2000:

>On the TMWRNJ 'film endings' bit, L and H played S and J in some dodgy sci-fi comdey type film,(i can't remember what, fortunately), where at the end S and J handed back their wages and apologised.
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That film was "Morons From Outer Space", a truly awful S & J vehicle from 1985.


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Posted By Jon on Mon Jun 5 07:38:09 BST 2000:

Yeah, I saw that on video, it had a few good moments but was largely rubbish. It got awarded 'Turkey of the Year' in some listings mag, I forget which.

Speaking of rubbish 80s film comedy, why doesn't someone start a strand about 'Police Academy'? The first one (JUST the first one) had a few good moments (JUST moments), probably because it had the same writers as Police Squad/Naked Gun, who weren't involved in the sequels.

'Ana Ng' was a song by They Might Be Giants.


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Posted By Richard Herring on Mon Jun 5 14:51:19 BST 2000:

Morons from Outer Space also starred Paul Bown who in turn starred in my last play "It's Not the End of the World".

I don't know what that says (about him or me or Smith and Jones) exactly.


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Posted By Joe on Mon Jun 5 17:41:22 BST 2000:

Wow! I got richard herring on a strand that I started! [smug grin]. So rich, whats it like being the hugely famous popular one out of lee and herring? I imagine you have much fan mail, and a constant swarm of female fans following you around. That stewart lee! Ooh, he's so grumpy. I don't know how you put up with him. Now I have a real live celebrity friend, i can fulfil my ambition to become like zoey ball and name drop. I'm not an the radio, so i'll probably just record it onto a tape and listen to it again and again forever until i die.
The point of this mail? None, just to try and tempt Rich into posting a reply. I bet he's too 'cool' to do it now. Ha ha.


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Posted By Joe on Mon Jun 5 17:48:21 BST 2000:

>I predict that Matt Holness and Richard Ayaoude (or whatever) will parody L&H, to cover their tracks.

Was matt holness from 'bruiser'???
I thought this show was great.


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Posted By PJ on Mon Jun 5 18:08:15 BST 2000:


>Was matt holness from 'bruiser'???
>I thought this show was great.

I also thought the show was good but, from what i've read, that's not the sort of opinion you should have around here.

I notice that the lastest Tango advert (with the man saying his thoughts in a megaphone) is similar to a sketch from Bruiser. But i suppose they ripped it off from someone else.


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Posted By Joe on Mon Jun 5 19:39:35 BST 2000:

I thought this was a good forum, where i could express my views, not a 'fashionable' type affair where there are certain things i'm not allowed to like. Elitism in comedy is almost as bad as the 11'oclock show. Boom Boom. So what if i thought bruiser was good, is some chris morris fan gonna stop me by glaring in a menacing way?


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Posted By Jon on Tue Jun 6 06:53:33 BST 2000:

I'm glaring right now...

I'm so clever, I didn't need to watch 'Bruiser' to know that it was rubbish!


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Posted By Joe on Tue Jun 6 17:24:03 BST 2000:

>I'm glaring right now...
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>I'm so clever, I didn't need to watch 'Bruiser' to know that it was rubbish!

I hope this is irony.


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Posted By Joe on Tue Jun 6 17:25:09 BST 2000:

Sorry, my bad typing. Of course, that should have read 'irony'.


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Posted By Tanya on Fri Jun 9 15:18:52 BST 2000:

You are free to have any opinion you like-as long as you can say why you have that opinion. The makers of this site have worked long and hard to tell you why they like certain things-it wouldn't hurt to repay the favour.


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Posted By Tanya on Fri Jun 9 15:22:53 BST 2000:

By the way-I thought Colin's Sandwich was good. The episode where his father dies was written especially well, eshewing melodrama in favour of Colin looking at his comotose father and thinking "For God's sake, just die!". My father died in similar circumstances and I found myself thinking exactly the same thing during the unbearable wait for his body to conk out. Funny that.


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