>...was one of the weakest I've ever seen, and could only possibly be defended as a link to next week's (possibly) exciting Daphne/Niles willtheywon'tthey series finale.

It was awful wasn't it? What in gods name happened to Daphne? She used to have a real accent and was at least a couple of stone heavier. *sigh* those were the days...

>No funny lines at all tonight though...and they really should stop getting American actors to do English accents - Daphne's brother was painful

The actor was actually Australian...not that it matters to American's in TV land who have no comprehension of a difference between Brit accents and Aus accents. In fact stay tuned for next week's episode when another Australian turns up playing Daphne's dad. I have seen the finale and well...it was such a dissapointment...

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>It was awful wasn't it? What in gods name happened to Daphne? She used to have a real accent and was at least a couple of stone heavier. *sigh* those were the days...
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Too long in Hollywood, perhaps? I used to think Frasier was one of those flawless sitcoms the Americans occasionally trot out.
I'm beginning to wonder, now. Maybe Grammer's right to call time - maybe the final season will improve on this (rather patchy) one.

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>The actor was actually Australian...not that it matters to American's in TV land who have no comprehension of a difference between Brit accents and Aus accents. In fact stay tuned for next week's episode when another Australian turns up playing Daphne's dad. I have seen the finale and well...it was such a dissapointment...

There was a Seinfeld once where Elaine dated an "English" bloke - equally iffy. I have no doubt that many Brits have about as much idea about provincial accents in the US, but even so....

I think, over the many years she's spent living in the US, we can allow her accent to fade a little... but the family were just appalling.

apparently the faster your accent fades, the more shallow you are - Donna Air once developed an American accent in the course ofg a 15-minute interview with Keanu Reeves, if memory serves.

>apparently the faster your accent fades, the more shallow you are - Donna Air once developed an American accent in the course ofg a 15-minute interview with Keanu Reeves, if memory serves.

Heehee...and didn't that female DJ (who had a show on Radio 1 and was a bit rough looking and I really really can't remember her name?!) interview Wet, Wet, Wet on Going Live back in the day and develop a really strong Scottish accent?

Interesting opinions, I suppose.

Far from being awful, though, it was actually wonderful, in every sense. Even that Anthony bloke as Simon was okay, being so utterly loathsome, which I suppose was the desired effect.

Millicent Martin as Daphne's mother in the season finale.

>Interesting opinions, I suppose.
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>Far from being awful, though, it was actually wonderful, in every sense. Even that Anthony bloke as Simon was okay, being so utterly loathsome, which I suppose was the desired effect.

Possibly, but it was just another device to make sure that a character doesn't hang around long enough for us to see a second dimension. I could even have forgiven them this had there been enough good gags. I barely chuckled (which is unusual for me watching Frasier).
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>Millicent Martin as Daphne's mother in the season finale.
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Have you seen it, John!?

I laughed an incredible amount at Dark Side of the Moon. Add to that the fact that I was on the edge of my seat, and it was quite an experience.

No, I've not seen the finale yet. I do know what happens, but I'm so looking forward to Friday I could just wet myself.

It's also written by the two best writers on the show.

>It's also written by the two best writers on the show.

Who are they? Is Joe Keenan still on board? I still think "The Matchmaker"'s the best one ever.

It's written by Joe Keenan (for certain) and, I think, Christopher Lloyd.

It's their last work on the show.

So it should be something special.

Can't find my tape to judge for myself!

Well, your opinion doesn't matter anyway, Suiii, you're just an alcoholic lesbian.

And yes, The Matchmaker is perhaps my favourite episode.

Along with Dark Victory, Breaking The Ice, Travels With Martin, My Coffee With Niles, First Date, The Adventures of Bad Boy and Dirty Girl, The Innkeepers...
























...Moondance, Visions of Daphne, An Affair to Forget, A Mid-Winter Night's Dream, Ham Radio, Daphne's Room, Adventures in Paradise, The Good Son...

After season three, I don't have episode titles on my videos, but all the ones you mention, John!, are all first-rate.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Friday's is going to be good.

It was.

Of course, John Mahoney, Martin Craine, is a genuine Manc, from Wythenshawe. You'd think he'd tell them to do decent accents.

Crane, CRANE.

Yes, John Mahoney is from Manchester, but he hasn't lived there for about 40 years.

I only have 105 episodes of Frasier on tape. I *demand* to have them all.

Speaking of which, it'd be nice if they were relased on DVD...season by season, like the atrocious Friends has been.

>Well, your opinion doesn't matter anyway, Suiii, you're just an alcoholic lesbian.


You say that like it's a bad thing!

No I didn't!

According to Caitlin Moran in today's times, Fraiser is going to be gay next series. I'm not sure whether it was a joke or not, but I hope I'm not sounding like too much of an arse.
Don't worry I'm not a Mailreading homophobe (not a homophobe, either), but it seems a bit jarring doesn't it?

>According to Caitlin Moran in today's times, Fraiser is going to be gay next series. I'm not sure whether it was a joke or not, but I hope I'm not sounding like too much of an arse.
>Don't worry I'm not a Mailreading homophobe (not a homophobe, either), but it seems a bit jarring doesn't it?

Ah well, whatever happens in the final season, can't be worse than how Roseanne ended up. Terrible egotistical plots and shouty acting. Worst of all, no jokes.

I think I might be the only person in the UK to have seen the Roseanne hour-long finale (1997). It remains not only one of the worst but certainly the maddest hour of sitcom I have ever seen.

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Was that the one where it turned out there was no family, just a mad woman (Rosanne) writing stories in her basement? If so then I saw it too - that's another hour of my life I'll never get back.

>Was that the one where it turned out there was no family, just a mad woman (Rosanne) writing stories in her basement? If so then I saw it too - that's another hour of my life I'll never get back.

That's the one - so that's two of us who had nothing better to do. (Mind you, a fortnight later, C4 reran the first season from a decade earlier. And it was great.)

No, Frasier won't be gay in the Eighth Season.

Oh, and I thought the final episode of Season Seven was absolutely wonderful, easily the most stunning and heart wrenching piece of television in many a year.

I'm going to give the cast and production team a round of applause.

Don't you think the last episode was a bit short on actual jokes though? I still had the wonderfull situations and character etc. but the whole didn't really seems that funny. Maybe i'm just being cynical because those british accent were so bad. I mean, for God's sake, as if there isn't any british actors in america etc, etc

Oh, let it go! It's not as if they were a major part of the episode (unlike another American sitcom I could mention which revolved an entire two episodes around bad English characters).

Plus, Frasier has never been about jokes. It's about these five wonderful people whose lives we follow, and they get into funny situations.

Tonights episode was a clear indication of the sheer depth Frasier has.

Please forgive John, he's over emotional!

I had the great misfortune too see that Roseanne episode. If I had a time machine that would be the first thing I'd change about my life! Well....that and marrying a bender!

Oi, slaguss!

You rant about The Simpsons, I'll rant about Frasier!

Shut up Fatty!!

(Bruce Forsyth impression)...was so much better than last week's. I came to the conclusion about halfway through that we weren't supposed to be taking Daphne's extended family seriously (except to show how awful they all were). I thought there were some good jokes, and an ending that, against the odds, opened up endless possibilities for season eight.

Won't go into detail, in case anyone taped it.

But bravo all the same. It more than made up for last week's (for me) disappointing instalment.

>Oh, let it go! It's not as if they were a major part of the episode (unlike another American sitcom I could mention which revolved an entire two episodes around bad English characters).
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>Plus, Frasier has never been about jokes. It's about these five wonderful people whose lives we follow, and they get into funny situations.
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>Tonights episode was a clear indication of the sheer depth Frasier has.

Surely all comedy should be about the joke? - surely the joke is an intrinsic part of a comedy program (although never the most important thing). I'm not 'dissin' the show (as i might say if i was a guest on the JO Whiley show), and i enjoyed the last show immensely it's just, you know, i flet a bit short changed at the end of the show (ooh, bad metaphor there.)

It's always good to see realistic, intelligent, evolving charatcers in a sitcom though, unlike, say, the dumbed-down charicatures in Friends.

Yes. Very good.

I think all 5 of the cast deserve some sort of award.

Not to mention Joe Keenan and Christopher Lloyd.