I personally think they are fantastic, and easily the best thing on radio. Perhaps the carry some of the sketches on for too long, but they make witty and intelligent remarks without having to resort to much to Chris Evans style "Humour".


They were probably at their best when they had the "graveyard" slot, but they are still more entertaining then the shit that surrounds them (Jo Whiley and Chris Moyles - What a great selection).

I totally agree, although that 'Cruddles' (that's what it's called, isn't it?) thing is doing my head in!

Chris Moyles should undoubtedly be shot, or subjected to some form of torture on a par with his show...
He is possibly the most boring, lazy DJ ever.
What he does as 'humour' is always at the expense of other people (usually his 'team') and in my opinion, comes accross as offensive.

Does anyone disagree? Any Moyles fans in here?

Mark and Lard are one of the only saving graces of Radio One. (Lamaq's show being the other...)

I was a fan of Moyles, before he was removed from the early morning slot. i was such a fan that it played havoc with my sleeping pattern.

Although I do think he went downhill once he got an afternoon show, and all I';m hearing now from those still in the country is that he's a lazy goodfornothing...

>I was a fan of Moyles, before he was removed from the early morning slot. i was such a fan that it played havoc with my sleeping pattern.
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>Although I do think he went downhill once he got an afternoon show, and all I';m hearing now from those still in the country is that he's a lazy goodfornothing...


..same here - I always used to listen when he was on the 'graveyard' slot - I think perhaps "his" concept of humour etc.. was funny and slightly original some time ago, but like a lot of things, it's just the same old stuff every day and boring now. Mark and Lard are quite funny - somehow they don't seem to get boring - maybe because they often admit they are 'crap' and don't 'try' too hard...

I used to listen to Mark & Lard all the time but haven't heard hardly any of it since they left the Graveyard shift. I got quite emotional when they were going, and sent Mark a drawing of him, and he wrote to me to tell me that his girlfriend had it framed on the bedside table. A lovely, lovely bloke.

Mark & lard were good on graveyards, then breakfast... I will never understand why they got shafted to the dead time in the afternoon.

>Mark & lard were good on graveyards, then breakfast... I will never understand why they got shafted to the dead time in the afternoon.

To stop it from being 'dead time?'
I mean, Radio one are doing the whole BBC Talent thing. They *know* that the majority of stuff they produce is shite.

>Mark & lard were good on graveyards, then breakfast... I will never understand why they got shafted to the dead time in the afternoon.

Because braindead 12 year old girls would rather listen to Zoe 'fucking' Ball than M&L.

Zoe Ball who is, correct me if I'm wrong, resting her whole "appeal" and her many column inches on how she's a whore...?

Yeah, it's funny that when Chris Moyles was on in the early mornings (when he was only just bearable), the introduction was 'and here he is, the saviour of Radio One, etc.'.

I agree whole-heartedly with the earlier point about Mark n Lard knowing that they're probably crap - but that's the whole idea. It's why John Shuttleworth has a faithful following. The stuff MnL do *is* original, though. Unlike so-called shock-jocks who attempt woefully to ape America's Howard Stern (although, of course, MnL aren't obviously shock-jocks). They'd be better back in the old 10pm slot, I think.

As long as no-one moves john Peel to make room for them.

John Peel, the teddy-bear of radio personalities.

I agree that they would be better back in their original 10-12 slot. The fact they got to play their own choice of records gave the show a more 'personal' feeling, which is hard to recrate with the limitations they have now they have to mostly stick to the playlist.

The graveyard slot also meant they had more guests on the show, be it live bands or guest poets. The recurring appearence of the same bands/poets gave the show its own little 'family' (so to speak), inviting the audience to join in with and feel part of the group. A little of this 'magic' (again, so to speak)feels, to me, to be lacking from the afternoon shows.

I still enjoy it, though.

With regards to the self-defeatist approach, it's certainly more refreshing than the 'surround yourself with yes men' idea as supported by Chris Moyles/Chris Evans/Zoe Ball. Which is probably why Mark and LArd are my favourite DJ's

Incidently, what do people think of their TV appearences, in particular "Upstairs Downstairs" and "Tenous links"?

>I agree that they would be better back in their original 10-12 slot. The fact they got to play their own choice of records gave the show a more 'personal' feeling, which is hard to recrate with the limitations they have now they have to mostly stick to the playlist.

They are only allowed to play 2 records an hour not on the playlist. They do get a bit of material from it though. "Three minutes completely wasted.." etc.

>I was a fan of Moyles, before he was removed from the early morning slot. i was such a fan that it played havoc with my sleeping pattern.
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>Although I do think he went downhill once he got an afternoon show, and all I';m hearing now from those still in the country is that he's a lazy goodfornothing...

Absolutely - he used to be more clever than crude - now it is the other way around. He is a fat slob. I only hear him occaisionally - some Fridays, where the show is funny becuase John Culshaw is on. The Who Wants to Be a Celebrity Millionaire was really funny (remember this is before ITV did this for real).

He is so rude to callers, cutting them off. It isn't funny. He needs to come up with some new features.

>Absolutely - he used to be more clever than crude - now it is the other way around. He is a fat slob.

I remeber the first show, where he was brown-nosing himself with one dj... darn, i have a temporary mental block and can't remember his name, though I ought to. Forgive me, it's been a long time since I was in the country, and he moved to radio 2 so M&L could take his slot, i think.
Anyway. the Mark & Lard Calypso he used to play was funny, just before handover. a bit of a pity that they were in different locations in the country, some kind of interaction would have been great - before Moyles got the huge ego, I mean.



>He is so rude to callers, cutting them off. It isn't funny. He needs to come up with some new features.

He used to have a caller who would play the recorder down the telephone...? If he's still doing that then yes, he really does need some new material. And a shave.

>I remeber the first show, where he was brown-nosing himself with one dj... darn, i have a temporary mental block and can't remember his name, though I ought to.

Was it Simon Mayo?

>He used to have a caller who would play the recorder down the telephone...? If he's still doing that then yes, he really does need some new material. And a shave.

David 'the photographer'. Haven't heard him for a while, though the fact that I rarely get to hear to show now might have something to do with it.

>I remeber the first show, where he was brown-nosing himself with one dj... darn, i have a temporary mental block and can't remember his name, though I ought to. Forgive me, it's been a long time since I was in the country, and he moved to radio 2 so M&L could take his slot, i think.

Steve Wright?

No... scottish, 'easy listening' voice... just when Moyles arrived...?

You must mean Johnnie 'Hokey-Cokey' Walker, who's been doing voice-overs for British Gas.

No, no I don't thik so...


grrr... he was on R1 in the afternoons, and was then pushed to radio 2 because of the huge shakeup that moved M&L to his timeslot. 1998, was it? i know it wasn't so far back...

Nicki fucking Campbell. Who also used to do a topical three record thing, like the cheesily.

Ah yes. Nicki Campbell. Self-styled 'intellectual' (although opinion's divided as to whether he could even spell it). Had a stint co-presenting ITV's 'Late & Loud', later retitled 'Thursday Night Live' (wanted to be Kilroy, ended up as Springer). Much more at home presenting 'Wheel of Fortune'. The butt of many of Chris Morris's jokes during his Radio1 series ("one of the prizes tonight is a signed photograph of Nicki Campbell administering the last rites to Roy Castler in Latin"). Married Radio1 news woman (was it Sybil Roscoe?). After cat-food consuming incident at University was forever after known as Cat-Food Campbell. Can apparently still be found drivelling on at Radio 5, but no-one really cares any more.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh him!

>Married Radio1 news woman (was it Sybil Roscoe?).

No it was Tina Ritchie, Chris Evans' Newsreader.

>I totally agree, although that 'Cruddles' (that's what it's called, isn't it?) thing is doing my head in!
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>Chris Moyles should undoubtedly be shot, or subjected to some form of torture on a par with his show...
>He is possibly the most boring, lazy DJ ever.
>What he does as 'humour' is always at the expense of other people (usually his 'team') and in my opinion, comes accross as offensive.
>
>Does anyone disagree? Any Moyles fans in here?
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>Mark and Lard are one of the only saving graces of Radio One. (Lamaq's show being the other...)

i disagree he's better than sara cox

That's like saying he's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

>That's like saying he's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Who is?
If you mean Moyles, I'd rather be poked in the eye with the sharp stick...

she.

i was overcome by the lack of punctuation in Mr. Chiquita's post and ommitted to note the sex of Cox.

>she.
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>i was overcome by the lack of punctuation in Mr. Chiquita's post and ommitted to note the sex of Cox.


Easy mistake to make

Not if you've seen the pictures.

I know she was short of money, but the poor sheep...

Surely there's an outlet for your style of humour?

Sadly, the 11oclock show didn't make it to a new series.

My style of humor is flexible. Often, I end up pandering to the lowest common denominator, generally those without the intelligence to remember their name before they post something.

Has anyone seen that they've re-done the halifax ad with mark and lard's voice over. Shame on them.

>Has anyone seen that they've re-done the halifax ad with mark and lard's voice over. Shame on them.

Duh - they're not flawless after all. That said - The Shirehorses actually RELEASING a record. Oh dear.

I've missed 'em being on this week, though. I've looked elsewhere for my radio entertainment and you can only laugh at Lisa I'Anson's (BBC London Live) interviewing technique for so long...about 90 seconds.

She was interviewing David Byrne yesterday afternoon, and I'm convinced I heard her snore at one point. Still, at least she didn't ask him what it was like hosting The Krypton Factor all those years.

...they released another record, or were you referring to 'the worst album in the world ever... ever'...?

>...they released another record, or were you referring to 'the worst album in the world ever... ever'...?

No, it was that one. Funny to hear on the radio, but beyond that...

*coughing fit*

*hides the copy she bought*


Yes, yes, of course, not worth buying at all.
*innocent whistling*

Mark and Lard's 10pm show was best, but I still think they should be doing the breakfast show cos that's when you really need them - getting up in the morning was alot easier when they were around. Remember the pixie dancing finale? I used to go past the BBC studios in Manchester on my way to work at about 8.55 every morning, and quite often saw Lard leaning out of a window teasing the students and loafers that had turned up with their home-made pixie hats - magic!

Re. Nikcy Campbell: didn't he leave his first wife when she was dying of cancer? After selling his story to the tabloids talking about how he was going to stick by her and how hard it was for him he then went off with another woman. Lovely guy.

>*coughing fit*
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>*hides the copy she bought*
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>Yes, yes, of course, not worth buying at all.
>*innocent whistling*

I feel a little mean-spirited slagging it off in a way - they are funny, but there was a danger of them turning into the DLT and Paul Burnett of contemporary R1.

They are still great though (M&L I mean).

I've just been listening to a 'BBC collections' tape of M&L which my friend lent me, which really highlights how good they were in the 10-12 slot. A tape I'd reccommend to anyone, if a little short (60mins)

>I've just been listening to a 'BBC collections' tape of M&L which my friend lent me, which really highlights how good they were in the 10-12 slot. A tape I'd reccommend to anyone, if a little short (60mins)


I've heard that too - it's ace. They keep teasing afternoon listeners that we may soon hear the much-awaited revival of S*** Agent (with Lard-aided bleep).

>I've just been listening to a 'BBC collections' tape of M&L which my friend lent me, which really highlights how good they were in the 10-12 slot. A tape I'd reccommend to anyone, if a little short (60mins)

I taped the last dozen or so shows of the graveyard shift. I was listening to them recently and they're still great, really good mix of tunes and guests and gags. I really miss it. Does anyone else have any tapes of their 10-12 shows? I remember there used to be a fan club that taped them -- what happened to them?


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Love 'em as I've already established - but it's got to be said that Harry White is knackered (in both senses of the word, I feel).

Bring back Lard's Animal Sanctuary (bizarrely, got funnier the more you heard it). Just that jingle kills me every time.

>Bring back Lard's Animal Sanctuary


Yes, and get rid of Beat the Clock, which is definitely not one of their better ideas.

Bring back the cr*ptown factor, just for the jingle.

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>Yes, and get rid of Beat the Clock, which is definitely not one of their better ideas.

Funny on Monday, but diminishing returns from the second instalment. And doesn't it go on - even they've now started to stop it after three minutes.

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>>Yes, and get rid of Beat the Clock, which is definitely not one of their better ideas.
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>Funny on Monday, but diminishing returns from the second instalment. And doesn't it go on - even they've now started to stop it after three minutes.
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sorry - this was me.

>>Funny on Monday, but diminishing returns from the second instalment. And doesn't it go on - even they've now started to stop it after three minutes.

There are bits that are humorous, but there are other bits which are gasping for air. Seems to be too long and drawn out...