Only 99p? Bargain! I'll take three, please.

Ok, please bear in mind I'm not the author of the article, but I would like to reply to some of the points Rich has made...

> However I don't see how you can justify the comments about Simon Pegg. I am sure he had nothing to do with it and actually e mailed me personally to express his disbelief. Whatever you think of him as a performer (and I think he's extremely funny) I don't think that gives you a right to speculate about him being some kind of evil Machevellian monster.

I don't believe the authors were speculating about Pegg being a monster, merely stating their own opinions about the current state of the comedy world and were using Pegg as an example. This article is possibly guilty of confusing some of the issues...

You'll notice that the paragraph beginning "Herring was very upset over being dropped from the show..." makes very definite statements about why you were dropped from the show (ie Sarah Smith's actions). The remaining text, which I believe you've misunderstood slightly, discusses how the attitudes and actions, or rather inactions, of the cast were similar to those of the 'On The Hour' team. Everyone is keen to back the winner ('protect your investment') and diss the loser ('clearing away the plates on the second floor'). You were very much the loser in this sorry situation Rich and this is a very worrying trend in the comedy industry, with no basis on what counts - talent.

> You are certainly wrong to think he wields that kind of power or influence. This is only Radio 4 and he was only a panellist on the show. Don't turn him into a scape-goat just because I was.

I *know* the authors do not believe Pegg was responsible, or that he would use that kind of power. If you read the article carefully, they're talking about their opinion on Pegg and how they feel he has similiar traits to Patrick Marber.

Remember, Marber didn't have any real power over the 'On The Hour' situation either.

Given Simon Pegg's remark about William Vandyck perhaps the views of the authors are unsurprising.

> Keep up the critical appraisal, keep up the knocking sacred cows, but make it based on fact and opinion of work, rather than trying to second guess imaginary conspiracy theories.

> I thought the stuff about the Boosh smacked a bit of jealousy about them having girl fans.

Well Rich, this is a bit of lazy argument, which is probably aimed more at me than the authors. If it was a case of jealousy, I don't believe they would of bothered to go into such great detail on all the other points, nor would they be able too. Given your knowledge of the authors Rich, would you honestly say that sounds like them? Do you really believe they're that superficial?

> I can see why you are suspicious of them as an act, and you make some reasonable points about them, but I saw their Arctic Boosh show this year and thought it was extremely funny and innovative. And I have no interest in being cool (as you may have noticed) or in people who think they are

Fair enough - if that's your opinion.

May we include your comments in an update of the Boosh article?

Of course you may use my comments.
The thing about the jealousy was more of a joke really (a cheap shot I believe it would be called)
I think the fact of the matter is that the next wek's panel were confused about why I wasn't there, and actually too unsettled by it to even talk about it amongst themselves. It was certainly weird.
I don't think Pegg and Marber are similar. For a start Pegg is an excellent comedy actor. I don't think he is driven by the same kind of ambition as Marber. But then what do I know? I am only using the evidence of my own experience of them both.
I did read the article carefully. I still don't agree with your interpretation Rob. But on the whole I am very pleased that the audience of the show thought I was funny and my dismissal was inappropriate.

>Of course you may use my comments.
>The thing about the jealousy was more of a joke really (a cheap shot I believe it would be called)

We guessed that, but others probably wouldn't.

>I think the fact of the matter is that the next wek's panel were confused about why I wasn't there, and actually too unsettled by it to even talk about it amongst themselves. It was certainly weird.
>I don't think Pegg and Marber are similar. For a start Pegg is an excellent comedy actor. I don't think he is driven by the same kind of ambition as Marber. But then what do I know? I am only using the evidence of my own experience of them both.

Well, that's what the authors were doing. We've already established your opinion is different from theirs.

>I did read the article carefully. I still don't agree with your interpretation Rob.

Well that interpretation of the article is more or less how it was supposed to be interepreted. I admit, it's not the strongest piece on this site...

> But on the whole I am very pleased that the audience of the show thought I was funny and my dismissal was inappropriate.

Yup - besides, I think you've got other things to worry about today, eh Rich? ;)

This is what I find frustating about this site, the fact that you are expected to/supposed to interpret everything in a particular way. How boring is that? And arrogant?
Interpret means 'to offer an explanation' why can't we offer varying explanations?

No that's fine Beccy, I was just was trying to make clear what the authors were trying to communicate... if you want to interpret it differently, that's fine - Free thinking actively encouraged - you have to expect some defense if other people believe you have got it wrong.

lets be honest here... you arecontinual cunts towards pegg but have no such qualms about herring... for christs sake look at the graphic emblazening this page just fucking drop your antagonismtowards pegg... we get it you despise him....big deal... channel your energy intosomething else.... for fucks sake its not as if pegg(who i quite like) is any threat to your sacred cunts....

plussy has a point. there is a lot of Herring suckling on this site. and the corpses always reply to him when he posts.

And they complain about sycophancy.

Surely the whole point of the forum is that people can say whatever they like. If you think I deserve to be slagged off then don't wait for someone else to do it.
I agree with you about Simon Pegg. I like him. That's why I started this strand. I think there are better things to slag off.
Plus the number of people who are joining in the debate shows to me that he is very well known (and popular).
Also, it seems the corpses answer pretty much everyone (including Simon Pegg) who writes here. It's a forum - it's here for opinions. Not just to slag everyone off in an equal fashion.
There's no sycophancy involved. Believe me. These guys couldn't be sycophantic if their lives depended on it.
There's plenty on here knocking me and Stewart anyway. I like that. It is good to hear criticism as well as praise.

>I agree with you about Simon Pegg. I like him. That's why I started this strand. I think there are better things to slag off.

Yep, surely everyone there are comedians who really make your blood boil? Who just infuriate you?
I find Simon Pegg quite appealing if truth be known and can't really think of any good reason to dislike him and this is something that might annoy people but I'm quite comfortable and happy with my optimistic opinion on this subject.

I can't think of many current comedy actors (and with the except of Spaced, this is the only medium most people have seen him in, if that makes sense) who are anything like *good*, so I do think that Simon Pegg, Kevin Eldon and Julian Rhind Tutt are the ones who excel in sitcom land. Given that Simon Pegg was first a standup, I think he's not bad at all. I mean look, at the other standups turned actors like Reeves and Mortimer, Ardol O'Hanlon (post FT of course), John Thompson, Eddie Izzard, Brian Connelly - ok I'm scraping the barrel now but you get the point!

>so I do think that Simon Pegg, Kevin Eldon and Julian Rhind Tutt are the ones who excel in sitcom land.

I meant *sitcom/sketch show* land.

By the way I need to buy some original jokes, seriously. I do. How would I go about this? Does anyone have any advice? Would anyone be willing (particularly Mr Herring, please?? I've got a crisp 5 pound note with your name on it) to tell me where I might be able to purchase any original jokes? Do gag writers still exist or did this trend die out with Bob Monkhouse...or um someone who's actually dead?

Sorry for using this thread for immoral purposes, desperate times and all that.

Herring: Once I knew a beard with a cunt!

Corpses: Oh he's so funny! Can't think why he was dropped from the 99p Challenge. Must be the producer...

Herring: And the cunt cuntivated it's own beard! Wahay!

Corpses: Isn't it a tragedy we won't be hearing more of this on the Radio? It's a good job the website he and I co-own will hopefully relaunch his career.

(Herring hands Corpses a disk)

Corpses: What's this?

Herring: It's another few paragraphs slating Simon Pegg Lucifer's son. Keep slipping them in. I'm doing sterling work defending him in the forum, maybe one day he'll want to work with me and I will be loved by the BBC again.

Corpses: How are you sure he'll see your defence?

Herring: How do you think the LoveBug started? I was trying to email him the URL.

Suii: Sorry to interrupt guys. But how do I go about getting red writing?

Herring: Well I got mine by proxy.

Corpses: Hush! Don't let on we're brothers. This is meant to appear an 'unbiased' website. So much so I even had to slag off FOF series 2. i do apologise not even a family connection made that enjoyable.

Herring: Don't worry about that. Stuart wrote most of it anyway and his downfall is paramount. Don't you remember our mantra?

Corpses: Of course; Herring and Lee will cease to be, Herring and Pegg's what the kids want to see.

Herring: I've chosen Stuart's replacement carefully. He's got the bemusing hair and everything!

Corpses: And he's a cunt. A concept you seem to work well with.

Er, Mortin you twat, I've never asked how to get a red name account because I've had one for a bloody year. And if people want to slag Simon Pegg off then they can. Mel and Sue also got a fair slating and I'm a very big fan of theirs, but do you see me issuing fatwas against the Corpses? No. Am I to be found writing derogatory graffiti about them on pblic toilet walls? Again, no. Bloody hell, grow up.

I actually thought that was quite funny. I think. subbes, to me it came over as an affectionate tribute to your goodself.
Now, in that case, should I have given subbes a capital s as strictly speaking, it was the start of a sentance....?

>I actually thought that was quite funny. I think. subbes, to me it came over as an affectionate tribute to your goodself.
>Now, in that case, should I have given subbes a capital s as strictly speaking, it was the start of a sentance....?



Pardon?
I wasn't mentioned in that diatribe, inless I mis-read it.
Or unless you're calling me a cunt.

oh, and btw: it will obey the laws of english, although it isn't a proper noun. Therefore, capetalise away.

(also feel free to tell me how i'm meant to spell capitalise, since i can never remember which one is correct. Rather like progidy. or is it prodigy? I cant pronounce that one, either.)

Yes, it helps if you get the names right before trying to be sarcastic Betty. Er, Beccy.

And I for one am well offended that you mistook me for that...*gestures towards subbes*. I may write to my MP and complain, hanging's too good for the likes of you my dear. And as for thingy *gestures again* well, she aint perfect but she liked my Facelink, and that counts for summat in this world!

*lmao*

Erm...

<takes Suiii's Paprika flavoured dehydrated potatoes and makes a pattern out of them>

<stamps on the Pringles>

But she mistook me for that little 5' 4" person! I'm 5' 6" man!!

I'm not a midget!

Even though it is actually 5 foot 3.

Ahem.

*was* she saying I was a cunt?

<weeps into broken Pringles>

Delivery of Kleenex for a mister Starkers....

Well?
WAS she saying i was a cunt?

No, I don't think so... it's quite difficult to tell though

Tch.

Is she the Beccy that knows Showbiz Alex? if she is, then now I understand.

If not, then nevermind. Just another person who likes to be bitchy...

Well, does it matter?

Well, yes, it does matter to me.

I'm in a bad mood atm, so you may as well know that your message struck me as being nasty. but because i know you're nice really, i wont have a go at you, just tell you how it sounded and hope it was accidental. if it wasnt accidental, hey, you probably had your reasons.

and i'm sure you'll do another of your replies to this, but never mind, just what makes you you , and easily predictable.

*raises eyebrows*
Enough. Lest I should become angry and burn this place to the ground.

Ooh, god! Sorry, haven't been here for a few days and didn't realise quite how things had escalated - I meant Suiii in my original message - sorry subbes. Sorry Suiii too, if you took offence. I wasn't being sarcastic either, Rod. I mean Rob. I just thought it was quite amusing whatever it was that whoever it was wrote. I didn't get the impression they were being nasty. And I wasn't trying to be either. I'm just putting my foot into it more and more.
Bye

I've just re-read the message I posted that started off this tirade and can't quite work out subbes how you thought I was calling you a c***
But I shall apologise for causing you the trauma all the same.
:o)

well, cause c*nt was rthe repeated word.... thought you meant it... like.





*hands sui the matches*
And be careful of your eyebrows this time, dear.

<hides>

*sprinkles lighter fluid*

Anyone who burns Suiii has to burn me.

Not if we burn them first darling!

<pulls flamethrower out from under cap>

YAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!

<jumps under cover of nearby bush>

<checks>

Oooh, Jesse Spencer's bush! What are the chances of that happening, eh?

If you dont want to know what happens, look away now.

I personally think Simon Pegg is a bit cutsey.


So he wouldn't fit well into contraversial things like Jaaaaaaam (or Jam).

I suppose he is sort of.

And he does adverts for things with cow noises.

Kung Fu fighting, HA!

No, things with cow noises.

You're scared of cows!!

*snigger*

On yer bike!

I have a healthy fear of our natural predators! In fact, I'm starting to wonder just whose side you're on!

*hides hooves under sleeves*

Erm, your side Dear!

What was that, a *humming bird*?

No, a Behemoth!!

It was a bat!

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

*jumps backwards 4 feet*

<runs around in a confused and frightened state>

<spills slush>

<hides from peacock>

<spits bits of choc muffin on a table>

<stands next to madly squawking bird thing>

<is stared at by group of children>

<looks at frightened zoo worker through window in a little hut>

finch.

<is chased by a tractory thing>

<tractory thing dumps benches>

<spots giant spiderweb>

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

I still have nightmares about those spider webs.

Thankfully, Treguard doesn't appear in them.

"left, forward, diagonal jump"

"Oh dear, you've fallen off the edge. Here's your certificate"