WHY I HATE CARLTON CRAP FOR LONDON Posted Wed May 3 14:05:11 BST 2000 by johnny banana

I surprised no one has started a bit about Carlton ITV but below are my reasons why I fucking hate them

1. They have completely killed off all of ITV's good programmes such as Minder, Boon & Mr. Bean

2. CITV is getting worse & worse what happened to the good old days of Rainbow, Button Moon, Danger mouse, Count duckula & Thomeas the tank engine instead we get fucking stuck with dog & duck, sining kettle (scottish tv crap) & tots tv

3. why do they feel they have to rename all channels they own Granada media, scottish media & united news and media haven't done so and don't plan to although scottish might

4. why did they have to destroy the bill? do they hate the glorious THAMES Television so much trying to kill the programme off by putting it on 5 days a week good job THAMES Television cut it down and now it is getting better again

and finally
5. why did the ITC let them extend they're contract until 2008 i was hoping that in the 2002/3 franchise battle Crlton would lose but Granada & LWT to greats of itv haven't why because Carlton knew they would lose

I'm just glad that in london they still have LWT as I would be doomed to seven days of shite


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Posted By Anonymous on Wed May 3 14:19:36 BST 2000:

HAVE U EVER FILTERED YOUR OWN PISS? CARLTON IS THE STINKING FILTRATE. AND IT OFTEN HAS A FEW SHITS FLOATING AROUND IN IT.


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Posted By Richard Bell on Wed May 3 16:04:46 BST 2000:


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>1. They have completely killed off all of ITV's good programmes such as Minder, Boon & Mr. Bean

I doubt if Thames were still an ITV company that it would still be making these.
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>3. why do they feel they have to rename all channels they own Granada media, scottish media & united news and media haven't done so and don't plan to although scottish might

Because it wants to have a common branding. Though this doesn't really make any sense unless they were all called Carlton. AAARRRGHHH Cold Shower Time!!
>4. why did they have to destroy the bill? do they hate the glorious THAMES Television so much trying to kill the programme off by putting it on 5 days a week good job THAMES Television cut it down and now it is getting better again.

The number of times The Bill is on per week or how long it lasts is determined by the Network Centre, though Carlton do have a say. But they don't schedule for the whole country.
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>and finally
>5. why did the ITC let them extend they're contract until 2008 i was hoping that in the 2002/3 franchise battle Crlton would lose but Granada & LWT to greats of itv haven't why because Carlton knew they would lose

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I hoped that they would lose their contract too, so that there might be some Independent TV in the UK again (when was the last time that the phrase 'Independant Television' was used? Early Ninties?)
>I'm just glad that in london they still have LWT as I would be doomed to seven days of shite
To be honest ITV seems to have gone down the pan wherever you are. Tighter regulation is the way to go.


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Posted By zaber on Wed May 3 20:13:45 BST 2000:

Too right. ITV has been a bag o' wank for years. I virtually never watch it. Their entire output seems to be aimed at Sun readers.

Ah well.


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Posted By Ben on Wed May 3 23:35:31 BST 2000:

>> Their entire output seems to be aimed at Sun readers.

Sun "reader" is a contradicion in terms - they can't read, that's why they buy The Sun


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Posted By Jase on Thu May 4 13:00:28 BST 2000:

Where are you from zaber? My mate at school invented the phrase bag'o'wank years ago and up to now I thought no-one else knew about it!


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Posted By zaber on Thu May 4 21:35:32 BST 2000:

Bag o' wank? I dunno where it comes from.

I come from Derbyshire, but I think a friend from London uses it. Maybe from the TV?


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Posted By JOHNNY BANANA on Fri May 5 08:58:45 BST 2000:

I KNOW ITV HAS BEEN SHIT FOR YEARS AND I KNOW THESE PROGRAMMES WOULDN'T BE MADE ANY MORE I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT THAT CARLTON ARE A BUNCH OF CUNTS


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Posted By Jock Mc Cock on Wed May 10 15:35:52 BST 2000:

i was looking forward to "the Jerry Springer" talk show only to find out is made by Carlton how because on the radio especially 95.8 Capital fm when they advertise itv if it is made by Carlton it goes at the end "...a Carlton production" egotistical cunts & also on the back of books made by them it says "this is a carlton book"


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Posted By BUSTY RUSTY 44DDD on Wed May 10 15:37:45 BST 2000:

what are you talking about CARLTON are the best


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Posted By WENDY WHOPPERS 46FFF on Wed May 10 17:37:07 BST 2000:

I agree with BUSTY RUSTY .I do miss those those members of the public reminding us that" Im watching Carlton" every half hour in those old idents.Which incidentally the ident music for them was composed by STEREOLAB apparently.Thats a fact for NME readers out there.However my favourite thing on Carlton is that babe in the rubber catsuit spraying water out the top of her umbrella head,that prefaces the weather report.PHWOOOARR.Bugger comedy Im off to the SKIN 2 website. See ya!


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Posted By Richard Bell on Thu May 11 08:53:38 BST 2000:

>However my favourite thing on Carlton is that babe in the rubber catsuit spraying water out the top of her umbrella head,that prefaces the weather report

We get that everywhere. Or do Londoners get it in their weather report too? I know Carlton Weather comes from the same place.


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Posted By lusty linda 99 JJJJ on Thu May 11 12:01:42 BST 2000:

>>However my favourite thing on Carlton is that babe in the rubber catsuit spraying water out the top of her umbrella head,that prefaces the weather report
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>We get that everywhere. Or do Londoners get it in their weather report too? I know Carlton Weather comes from the same place.
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so does LWT weather


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Posted By johnny banana on Thu May 11 12:03:54 BST 2000:

aint it funny how on LONDON Tonight at the end creidts on LWT it still says reigional news programme of the year but on CARLTON's in dont LWT's does have the updated telephone number so why is this? Answer the weekday newsreaders are shit


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Posted By Blake Connolly on Thu May 11 18:40:33 BST 2000:

>>However my favourite thing on Carlton is that babe in the rubber catsuit spraying water out the top of her umbrella head,that prefaces the weather report
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>We get that everywhere. Or do Londoners get it in their weather report too? I know Carlton Weather comes from the same place.
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Nope, Carlton Weather's sponsored by someone else, some heating company and the intro uses those infra red heat-camera thingies. LWT's is different too, a gas company I think with a very cheap intro involving a smiling kid.

Anyway, on the main topic, ITC PLEEEEEEASSSEEEEEE give us our Thames back!!! People outside London might think Carlton's bad, but they don't know the half of it.

And on Johnny Banana's point, yeah, the LWT London Tonights are seeming more and more seperate from the weekday ones. I remember when it started it was one big united thing (basically the old LWT News/6 O'Clock Live all week long) but the Carlton infulence seems to have grown.


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Posted By george on Thu May 11 21:06:00 BST 2000:

>The lady in the wetsuit with water coming from her head is one of the tiltes for the ITV National Weather Forecast.

Although I'm sure Carlton will change that to a slob who sprays effulence from his rear.....Today ITV Franchises...tomorrow the world....


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Posted By johnny banana on Tue May 16 09:52:00 BST 2000:

>aint it funny how on LONDON Tonight at the end creidts on LWT it still says reigional news programme of the year

sorry I have to correct that this week it has been removed


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Posted By johnny banana on Wed May 17 14:47:22 BST 2000:

i have to say that in the past i have defended LWT but now they are getting worse. Do we have to keep seeing Blind Date, You've been framed & Stars in Their eyes. LWT do come up with good ideas but drag them out too long and kill them off.

I think it is about time they got some new programmes and Improve Saturday night otherwise they end up like CARLTON


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Posted By Jase on Thu May 18 00:59:24 BST 2000:

Problem is LWT only make one of those programmes...

I've been thinking a bit about Carlton. Everyone's been going on about these fake documentaries. But "The Cook Report" has been shown to be fake as well, even when it was made by Central Television. I also read about a number of scandals involving faked documentaries by ATV in the sixties. Could it be possible that ATV/Central has been corrupt for 45 YEARS?!?!?


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Posted By Richard Bell on Thu May 18 08:40:48 BST 2000:

>i have to say that in the past i have defended LWT but now they are getting worse. Do we have to keep seeing Blind Date, You've been framed & Stars in Their eyes. LWT do come up with good ideas but drag them out too long and kill them off.

I think the problem is they apparently attract high ratings so the commissioning editor for ITV Entertainment or however it works would be loathe to cancel them.


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Posted By Andrew Bowden on Thu May 18 20:25:36 BST 2000:

>Problem is LWT only make one of those programmes...

Well Blind Date is LWT.
Stars In Your Eyes - Granada
You've Been Framed - this is one I don't know. At a guess... Yorkshire?


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Posted By Justin on Thu May 18 20:38:59 BST 2000:

>>Problem is LWT only make one of those programmes...
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>Well Blind Date is LWT.
>Stars In Your Eyes - Granada
>You've Been Framed - this is one I don't know. At a guess... Yorkshire?

You've Been Framed is made by Granada, but you could argue that all three are made by Granada, given that Granada effectively took over LWT in 1995.


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Posted By johnny banana on Fri May 19 09:01:57 BST 2000:

>Problem is LWT only make one of those programmes...

lwt make blind date & you've been framed but iam not sure about stars in their eyes


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Posted By RB on Fri May 19 10:33:52 BST 2000:

>>Problem is LWT only make one of those programmes...
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>lwt make blind date & you've been framed but iam not sure about stars in their eyes

YBF is Granada but Andrew Bowden's right. They all are really.

Has LWT ever made a decent sitcom? Whoops Apocalypse springs to mind (but am I wearing rose-tinted specs?) No others I can think of. In fact, I think that Rising Damp is probably the only really good sitcom ever made by any ITV comedy ever. And that was entirely due to the acting. The writing was pretty bad.


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Posted By Justin on Fri May 19 15:47:20 BST 2000:

>>>Problem is LWT only make one of those programmes...
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>>lwt make blind date & you've been framed but iam not sure about stars in their eyes
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>YBF is Granada but Andrew Bowden's right. They all are really.
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>Has LWT ever made a decent sitcom? Whoops Apocalypse springs to mind (but am I wearing rose-tinted specs?) No others I can think of. In fact, I think that Rising Damp is probably the only really good sitcom ever made by any ITV comedy ever. And that was entirely due to the acting. The writing was pretty bad.

A little unfair, but I take your point. Basically, there's Whoops Apocalypse, Hot Metal (which I mentioned on another thread - can't remember which), do we count Men Behaving Badly as the first few series (on ITV) were all fine, as was Agony, and Brass was OK (haven't seen it for years, mind you...). Maybe those of you with cable have had some unwelcome reminders with some of these - but I'm having to rely on memory here. Anyway, I've struggled to name five so I suppose that proves your point - five decent (not even brilliant) sitcoms in 45 years of ITV!



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Posted By george [email protected] on Sat May 20 21:42:14 BST 2000:

...and of course, not one of those shows are by Carlton, because they can't lift the quality of their shows to that low level.


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Posted By CiZ on Sun May 21 17:23:40 BST 2000:

.... And at 7pm, Wish You Were Here, but right now on Carlton, it's time to play "Wish You Were Here".

Then the programme starts: Wheel Of Fortune (5:30pm)

Anybody visiting London must get amused at Carlton's amateur attempts, and at the fact that the ITC allows them to run the capital's itv station


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Posted By JOCK MC COCK on Fri May 26 09:47:29 BST 2000:

Do Carlton have to have their name on it i have seen two ads on itv for jamba.co.uk & simplyfood.co.uk & it has carltons name in the corner. what next Carlton to take over the great 95.8 Capital fm or even have their own chain of bus routes. i'm not been stupid this company seems to think it can do what it likes


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Posted By Blake Connolly on Sat May 27 08:53:15 BST 2000:

Maybe Carlton is an experiment to see how much money you can make while not knowing how to run a TV station or make quality programmes.

And the results: lots of money


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