BBC Talent Posted Thu Apr 27 16:56:10 BST 2000 by Justin

Don't know if anyone visited the BBC Talent Sitcom site to see exactly what the BBC are looking for -I found them urging would-be writers to send in ideas that would normally be considered "insane". A somewhat dangerous invitation - does this mean the Script Unit are hoping for stuff that will prove so impractical and difficult as to be untransmittable? After all, one of the clauses in the rules states that the BBC doesn't have to honour any entries if it doesn't feel like it. Translation: "We are going to nick your ideas".

This site has been surprisingly quiet about BBC Talent so far - is this because everyone else already considers it such a waste of time that it's unworthy of comment, or is it because it's generally regarded as an encouraging idea? I'd be interested to know what other people think, as I was going to submit a sitcom for the competition, got about two-thirds of the way through writing it, and then read those rules just a little more closely. (Particularly the bit which says that the BBC owns copyright on all entries until November, and then the shortlisted candidates after that. Is that first bit actually allowed - do any professional writers know the score?)

If anyone reading this has sent something in, I sincerely wish you the best of luck, and hope you get more out of it than the two-day workshop with Paul Jackson and Geoffrey Perkins.


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Posted By Ben on Thu Apr 27 22:37:22 BST 2000:

I think it's all v suspect - The BBC searching franticly for talent is a frightening thought - although what better symbol of this could have been chosen than Jamie Theakston?


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Posted By Rob S on Thu Apr 27 23:00:29 BST 2000:

I've not looked into it too much to be honest, although I believe there was something interesting about it in the current edition of Private Eye....


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Posted By E.J Thribb ( age 17 3/4) (that's enough, ed) on Fri Apr 28 08:13:29 BST 2000:

There was something in the Eye...


If you send in a script/prog idea normally, through normal channels, the copyright will stay with you the author.

Do it through BBC Talent and the copyright is taken away from you and it is made the property of the BBC....


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Posted By Al Murray on Fri Apr 28 10:19:44 BST 2000:

BBC Talent is hilarious. The BBc say they're looking for new talent but it is the precise opposite of what they're doing: they're waiting for you to write to them rather than going out and looking for it like Mr Theakston would have us believe.

And anyway, when he wanted to do his thing ["The Priory".... there isn't time sadly] he had to go to Channel Four.


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Posted By Justin on Fri Apr 28 11:46:26 BST 2000:

It was interesting to get a response from Al Murray on this subject - is it true that Time Gentlemen Please was sitting on a desk somewhere at the BBC for months on end, while Murray was appearing in sell-out shows and winning the 1999 Perrier? If this is even faintly true, the BBC are even more clueless at spotting talent than I first thought.

I'm actually thinking of sending my sitcom to Sky instead (well, when I finish it, anyway) - does anyone know who's in charge of comedy or entertainment there?


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Posted By miffy on Fri Apr 28 12:21:05 BST 2000:

today is the last day for entries, just when I was getting desperate enough to resort to such levels too.

I can't wait to see who wins. I really can't...I was just wondering if they'd ever tried any similiar 'recruitment drive' in the past? and if so what happened? Does anyone know?


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Posted By Rob S on Fri Apr 28 12:49:17 BST 2000:

>There was something in the Eye...
>Do it through BBC Talent and the copyright is taken away from you and it is made the property of the BBC....

That was it, and oddly enough, the address to send your script to BBC Talent is the usual script dept one.

I wonder if the BBC would try to claim copyright over a particularly good script because it was submitted during BBC Talent - even though that was not what the author intended...?


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Posted By Richard Herring on Mon May 1 12:46:31 BST 2000:

Al's sit-com (written by me and him) was indeed with the BBC for six or so months. The day after he won the Perrier (and a couple of days after we'd signed with Sky) the BBC bloke decided that Al was someone he should have on his channel. Too late.
Maybe someone should actually read the scripts. It's not as if Al was an unknown before the Perrier win. Twats.


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Posted By Andrew Bowden on Mon May 1 17:19:39 BST 2000:

>I can't wait to see who wins. I really can't...I was just wondering if they'd ever tried any similiar 'recruitment drive' in the past? and if so what happened? Does anyone know?

BBC Talent is a sort of combination of a number of similar, regular 'campaigns' run in the past. There is nothing intrinsically new about the 'job offers'. What is new is the way its being done.


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Posted By Andrew Bowden on Mon May 1 17:23:13 BST 2000:

>Al's sit-com (written by me and him) was indeed with the BBC for six or so months. The day after he won the Perrier (and a couple of days after we'd signed with Sky) the BBC bloke decided that Al was someone he should have on his channel. Too late.
>Maybe someone should actually read the scripts. It's not as if Al was an unknown before the Perrier win. Twats.

Perhaps Greg's 'One BBC' stuff will see things like this sort themselves out, cos lets face it, if it doesn't then shows will just go off to people who move faster. BBC Broadcast and BBC Production where huge departments. Now we've got an entertainment related department, perhaps things will improve.

I speak with having absolutely no experience in these matters, but as a license fee payer, I want to see good programmes on the Beeb and if writers end up going to Sky with their idea because someone at the BBC is not moving fast enough, then the BBC should get moving faster.


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Posted By Justin on Mon May 1 22:37:12 BST 2000:

>Al's sit-com (written by me and him) was indeed with the BBC for six or so months. The day after he won the Perrier (and a couple of days after we'd signed with Sky) the BBC bloke decided that Al was someone he should have on his channel. Too late.
>Maybe someone should actually read the scripts. It's not as if Al was an unknown before the Perrier win. Twats.

Does anyone know if Baddiel and Enfield have signed with Sky for similar reasons?

I heard a Radio 4 documentary about sitcom writing a couple of weeks ago in which Harry Thompson was interviewing Geoffrey Perkins about script readers, and they were both chuckling in the most self-satisfied manner about a script reader who in 1974 rejected John Cleese & Connie Booth's Fawlty Towers. "I'll bet he didn't last long", Thompson and Perkins commented. Well, obviously, a mistake. But.....

Fawlty Towers was still commissioned and transmitted. So scripts were read back then, was my conclusion. Unlike now, it would seem - Time Gentlemen Please being a perfect example.




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