Repeats of the Goodies on BBC... Posted Wed Sep 13 22:46:00 BST 2000 by Dave Christ

...BBC Prime, that is. From 22.00 on Saturdays and Tuesdays. With subtitles in Hebrew. Which may be of interest to people with expensive satellite equipment. And it does show that someone somewhere in the BBC has a little bit of sense.


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Posted By Bent Halo on Thu Sep 14 00:30:28 BST 2000:

You will tell us which ones go out, eh Dave? If the UK digital broadcasts are anything to go by, they'll have 6-7 minutes removed from each episode.


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Posted By Lee Mendham on Thu Sep 14 01:12:43 BST 2000:

They were heavily cut on UK Gold, back during the days when I was bombarding them with complaints about the cuts.
They were also cut on UK Arena, which may just have picked up the old UK Gold versions for quickness. (Much as Radio 2 would often plonk the *cassette* versions of The Goons or Hancock on the air rather than go to the trouble of asking the Archives for a decent copy.)


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Posted By sheep on Thu Sep 14 09:45:26 BST 2000:

according to digiguide :

Saturday 16th 22:00
Bill tries to protect the last of the dodos and discovers the true reason for their distinction

Tuesday 19th 22:00
The Goodies stage a royal command performance, invade the palace, create a coronation and lose a 3 seater bike.

The shows have a 30 minute slot, if that's any help. I don't know if BBC Prime has advert breaks though.

They've been running The Goodies for some time, along with Fry & Laurie.

BBC Prime isn't officially available in the UK, and isn't free to air.


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Posted By Ewar Woowar on Thu Sep 14 10:12:31 BST 2000:

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>They've been running The Goodies for some time, along with Fry & Laurie.
>
>BBC Prime isn't officially available in the UK, and isn't free to air.
>

BASTARDS BASTARDS BASTARDS

And what do *we* get? Effin Castaway and Have I Got Old Repeats Which Have Already Been Repeated But What The F***, Let's Repeat Them Again Anyway, It'll Save Us A Trip To Archives, For You.

It's starting to feel personal now, it's no longer that they can't or won't repeat these shows, it's more like they just don't want ME to see them.

BASTARDS BASTARDS BASTARDS


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Posted By Bent Halo on Thu Sep 14 15:10:46 BST 2000:

Sorry if I'm being pedantic, which I am...

>They were heavily cut on UK Gold, back during the days when I was bombarding them with complaints about the cuts.

So was I, but this was only warranted for the second of three repeat runs. The initial showings were complete(92-93) because they were not allowed to edit them, or in fact anything else on the channel. A few minor trims sneaked through, but it was only the two-part teatime versions that had offensive amounts of edits. The 'best of' rpts (95-96) which soon followed on late night UKG were virtually complete.

>They were also cut on UK Arena, which may just have picked up the old UK Gold versions for quickness.

Nope, different VT editor - as namechecked in Robert Ross' apalling new book on 'The Goodies'. The UK Arena cuts lost us 6-7 minutes and repeats covered series 4-6.

The UK Prime screenings, according to sheep's report, are series 7 with 'Dodonuts' and 'Royal Command' matching the plot descriptions. 'Dodunuts' runs for 31 minutes so that's certainly had the chop.

More proof that Jane Root should get her gay finger out and show the whole lot on BBC2.


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Posted By pedant sheep on Thu Sep 14 20:15:13 BST 2000:

>Nope, different VT editor - as namechecked in Robert Ross' apalling new book on 'The Goodies'.

It was a poor book wasn't it. I eagerly awaited it, having ordered it months before, and it's release date was put back.

OK, there's a few interesting bits, but the episode guide therein, which could have been the best bit of the book, is so poorly written it's painful to read.

And Robert Ross omitted Tim Brooke-Taylor's appearances in the 1970's schools programme "It's All Write".


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Posted By Jake Thingy on Thu Sep 14 20:25:43 BST 2000:

Robert Ross' books do provide an intriguing game to play, when you're bored - just try and count how many times he uses the word "stunning".


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Posted By Lee Mendham on Thu Sep 14 21:08:12 BST 2000:

>The initial showings [on UK Gold] were complete(92-93) because they were not allowed to edit them, or in fact anything else on the channel.

Excuse me? The first time they showed The Young Ones - in their first week on air if memory serves - it was cut from 35 minutes to less than 25!!! If that was typical behaviour it would have meant that EVERY half-hour BBC show including The Goodies was cut to 25 minutes or less. I know for a fact that they sometimes faded out the spoof commercials to make room for real ones. How's THAT for crass commercialism?

I just wish to God that they HAD been forbidden to cut anything. Ever.


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Posted By Bean Is A Carrot on Fri Sep 15 12:23:06 BST 2000:

How likely do you reckon that new BBC1 lady is to repeat The Goodies? Maybe we could point out that just like Animal Hospital, there's a fair bit of Rolf in in...

Hey, you don't suppose Rolf's behind the BBC anti Goodies conspiracy do you?


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Posted By sheep on Fri Sep 15 23:16:49 BST 2000:

When the two Goodies videos were released a few years back, it was said that they didn't sell well. They got re-released on the cut-down BBC "right price comedy" label at 4.99, which does suggest they had a lot of tapes to dispose of in some way.

Mind you, The Good Life didn't get much of a video release until after it was discovered that it drew in the audiences during daytime repeats.

This is just observation, not comment. I dearly want to see unedited repeats of The Goodies on the BBC. Incidentally, I notice Fawlty Towers doesn't get edited to fit into the 27 minute time slot that the BBC love, so I don't see why other old shows should be.


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Posted By PJ on Sat Sep 16 00:38:46 BST 2000:

"Incidentally, I notice Fawlty Towers doesn't get edited to fit into the 27 minute time slot that the BBC love, so I don't see why other old shows should be."

Did anyone notice if Fawlty Towers had the Flowery Twats in tonights episode? (i think it was tonights) Its usually in, even though the BBc have wised up to the word (After TMWRNJ had been broadcast, obviously)


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Posted By Bent Halo on Sat Sep 16 15:31:51 BST 2000:

>I know for a fact that they sometimes faded out the spoof commercials to make room for real ones. How's THAT for crass commercialism?

I'm very lucky to have uncut versions of The Goodies from Australia to compare to the UKG showings. The adverts were left in on first showings, generally lost on those dreadful two part versions (OVER TWO DAYS!).

And if you too lived off tapes of the latter for the last five years, Lee, then I sympathise. I was in the same boat.


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Posted By Mark J on Sat Sep 16 15:34:42 BST 2000:

It did, despite the BBC actually censoring the word 'twat' twice on last weeks' Room 101. Twice. On BBC2. At 10pm. Idiots.


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Posted By Bent Halo on Sat Sep 16 15:36:29 BST 2000:

>OK, there's a few interesting bits, but the episode guide therein, which could have been the best bit of the book, is so poorly written it's painful to read.

The man needs to learn about paragraphs. Some stretch across 3 pages!

>And Robert Ross omitted Tim Brooke-Taylor's appearances in the 1970's schools programme "It's All Write".

Tip of the iceberg, sheep! The book was a hideous, deceptive waste of money. The main problem is the A-Z format. You need to know *exactly* what you're looking for, otherwise forget it. Thanks to this he hides away Goodies episodes like 'Instant Christmas' and 'A Collection Of Goodies'. Which is stupid.

Oh, and the episode titles are all wrong.


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Posted By David Balston on Sun Sep 17 02:18:42 BST 2000:

>You will tell us which ones go out, eh Dave? If the UK digital broadcasts are anything to go by, they'll have 6-7 minutes removed from each episode.

I believe that all channels with the BBC name don't have advertisements and I am pretty sure that BBC Prime is no exception.

I find that having the interruptions to the show rather ruin the pace and a BBC uncut showing is the only way to appreciate what a great show this was. The UK Arena must have been the worse treatment the show has ever got, at least UK Gold started to make amends my showing some of the episodes uncut.

I notice that yet another Goodies clip aired on the telly tonight during the BBC TV Centre extravaganza, showing the Goodies responsible for the ultimate demise of the building itself, it got a round of applause from the celebrity audience ending with a shot of Bill in the audience.

David



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Posted By Robert Williams on Sun Sep 17 11:12:58 BST 2000:

> I believe that all channels with the BBC name don't have advertisements and I am pretty sure that BBC Prime is no exception.

Yes it does, BBC Prime and BBC World are both funded by advertising which is why they cannot be shown in the UK.


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Posted By sheep on Sun Sep 17 11:27:34 BST 2000:

>Yes it does, BBC Prime and BBC World are >both funded by advertising which is why >they cannot be shown in the UK.
>

Are you sure? Admittedly I don't speak from experience here, but I've read that BBC World is available unencrypted on several satellites, and thus potentially available in the UK. It was also used to cover the gap in News 24 when there was the TV centre fire a few months back, and I didn't notice any ads (tho they could have opted out into a BBC trailer I admit).

However, BBC World struck me as being an advertising funded service since it's explicitly *not* available in the UK.



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Posted By subbes on Sun Sep 17 15:53:05 BST 2000:

>And what do *we* get? Effin Castaway and Have I Got Old Repeats Which Have Already Been Repeated But What The F***, Let's Repeat Them Again Anyway, It'll Save Us A Trip To Archives, For You.


Ah, Castaway. We got the "first" show - least, i think it was the first, where they all ran around in Wales and shoveled sh*t and stuff - on a loop for a whole weekend. the same show over and over, interspersed with infomercials. Hurrah.


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Posted By subbes on Sun Sep 17 15:54:50 BST 2000:

>I believe that all channels with the BBC name don't have advertisements and I am pretty sure that BBC Prime is no exception.


*cough*
No. In britain yes, but ouside there? Not unless you're looking at World Service.


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Posted By Robert williams on Sun Sep 17 16:34:15 BST 2000:

> Are you sure? Admittedly I don't speak from experience here, but I've read that BBC World is available unencrypted on several satellites, and thus potentially available in the UK. It was also used to cover the gap in News 24 when there was the TV centre fire a few months back, and I didn't notice any ads (tho they could have opted out into a BBC trailer I admit).

The version of BBC World we got was a 'clean' version without adverts. Local operators insert adverts into the 'info' breaks we saw. BBC World CAN be received in the UK but it is not officially intended to be.


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Posted By Jase on Sun Sep 17 22:11:24 BST 2000:

BBC World is commercial, but there is a FTA version available on Hotbird/13E analogue whic has no adverts. BBC Prime has no adverts whatsoever, at least the versions on Nordic and German TV don't anyway.


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Posted By sheep on Sun Sep 17 22:39:12 BST 2000:

>BBC World is commercial, but there is a FTA version available on Hotbird/13E analogue

Wow! Really?

I'm up on the roof tomorrow to move my analogue dish over to Hotbird.. is 80cm big enough? (fnarr etc)

The dish is wasted, pointing at Astra 19.2E, originally put there to get me CH5 on the SOuth Coast, for the (very) occasional comedy show thereon. But I've digital now, so don't need the dish for that. I wondered about getting a Digital sat receiver to get BBC World, then found it was encrypted.

Do you speak from experience, sir?

Even if it's been cut, The Goodies twice a week is not to be sniffed at, compared to the current situation (nothing since 1986). And Fry & Laurie.


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Posted By over excited sheep on Sun Sep 17 22:42:58 BST 2000:

:(

I misread your message.

BBC World (the newsy channel) is FTA. Which I believe it also is in digital form on a few other satellites.

BBC World is subscription and not available in the UK, and subbed by adverts, probably :(


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