MEDWAY TOWNS - CARLTON/LWT LONDON AND MERIDIAN EAST (AND ANGLIA IF YOU HAVE A BIG AERIAL OR CABLE)
Back in the days of Thames/LWT and Southern you couldn't get Southern in Medway, but that changed in 1982 when TVS was allocated the Bluebell Hill transmitter that had previously carried Thames/LWT.
You can't prevent transmitter areas from overlapping. Better to have two stations available than none...

Spalding: Carlton Central East (bit of a mouthful), Anglia West and YTV (Belmont).

Southend-on-Sea: Carlton/LWT, Meridian SE and Anglia East.

My place: Carlton/LWT and Meridian SE.
Loads of others!

Portpatrick/Stranraer area - Border and UTV. In Portpatrick the UTV reception is usually better than Border - at least that was the case on the TV in the pub we went to!

Dorset: bits of the around Cerne Abbas are a mishmash of Westcountry and HTV.

Why does no-one ever mention the huge overlap in North Yorkshire between Tyne Tees Bilsdale and Yorkshire -- the largest in the country and the root cause behind the two companies scrapping like Jack Russells for two decades, before one gobbled the other up and deprived the rest of the North East of a proper telly service?

Ooh...and the North Norfolk Coast, YTV (Belmont) and Anglia East.

I know the thread specifies England, but in Cardiff you can get HTV West and HTV Wales (or could - did someone say they've merged?) And of course Channel 4 and S4C - depending on how close to the coast you are.

>I know the thread specifies England, but in Cardiff you can get HTV West and HTV Wales (or could - did someone say they've merged?) And of course Channel 4 and S4C - depending on how close to the coast you are.

People living in North Somerset can only get S4C, and not Channel 4. My parents went on a weekend break there once and found that they couldn't escape from "Sgorio" (football show, might surprise you).

>Why does no-one ever mention the huge overlap in North Yorkshire between Tyne Tees Bilsdale and Yorkshire -- the largest in the country and the root cause behind the two companies scrapping like Jack Russells for two decades, before one gobbled the other up and deprived the rest of the North East of a proper telly service?

In most parts of South Leeds, you can get a good Tyne Tees picture

You can get quite a good Tyne Tees picture as far south as South Yorkshire.

Slightly off-topic, I know, but I can never help thinking of TTTV as "Tight Knees Television"...

My roomie at Durham used to refer to it as Terrible Tits TV....

I think that they should never have missed out the Wear when they named it. Tyne Wear and Tees (TWAT) Television has a nice ring.

Here in Leeds I can get Emley Moor, Bilsdale, in good quality, and a grainy picture from Belmont..

>I think that they should never have missed out the Wear when they named it. Tyne Wear and Tees (TWAT) Television has a nice ring.

I liked the ITA's response to that name, calling it "too much of a mouthful". Yeeessssss.... :)

>>I think that they should never have missed out the Wear when they named it. Tyne Wear and Tees (TWAT) Television has a nice ring.
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>I liked the ITA's response to that name, calling it "too much of a mouthful". Yeeessssss.... :)

Hummmm . . . that's fishy

I think I once went out with Emley Moor. ('Baht 'at, of course.)

Ilkley Moor Surely? Emley Moor is too close to my house for comfort.

Emley Moor is too close to my house for comfort.
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Emley Moor is the bastard child of Emlyn Hughes and Bobby Moore (with a speech and spelling impediment)

here in coventry most people get central west and central east from sutton coldfield (west) and waltham (east).

Of course people in Covenrty get west and east Central News.
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>Of course people in Covenrty get west and east Central News.
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What BBC do they get - Both East and West Midlands?

>>Of course people in Covenrty get west and east Central News.
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>What BBC do they get - Both East and West Midlands?
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> That's a good question. I live in Coventry. Most people receive the Midlands service from Nottingham because they are so close to Leicester, Derby and places around there.
Coventry and North Warwickshire (including Nuneaton) is an overlap. Most people receive 'East Midlands' rather than west Midlands. BBC Birmingham do feature Coventry and Nottingham do too. It isn't a city that gets on television news too often. Coventry is in the middle of the country where the BBC Birmingham and BBC Nottingham borders are.
Coventry isn't techically in the political East Midlands region, but neither is Burton on Trent and Peterborough which are places featured heavily by BBC Nottingham.
A good place to see which city is in which region is to watch the opening titles to the regional news. The map at the end of the sequence often reveales all.
In the East Midlands Today sequence Coventry is in small letters. This often hides the fact that we are in their region.
If anybody is interested i do have VHS video footage of the current Central News East and the new East Midlands Today. There is nearly 2 hours of footage. If you are interested and would like a video just note here and i will give my e-mail and postal address.
Hope i've answered your Coventry question well enough.

>Hope i've answered your Coventry question well enough.

Just wondered - I will be in coventry at the end of Sept - my sister is going to start uni there and I am going over with her.

>my sister is going to start uni there and I am going over with her.

I could make a really smutty comment at this point but I won't...

>I could make a really smutty comment at this point but I won't...

Don't

I live in Chester and get
Granada
Htv
Carlton Central West
Bbc midlands, north west and wales

but i prefer granada

Yes. In Coventry you should be seeing the Central West and East services with BBC West Midlands and East Midlands.

In Chester your regional news programmes should come from Granada and BBC North West. Crewe in Cheshire is an overlap between Central West and Granada.

I HATE OVERLAPS!

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>>I could make a really smutty comment at this point but I won't...
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>Don't

Sorry Richard... poor taste, didn't mean to offend :(

>Yes. In Coventry you should be seeing the Central West and East services with BBC West Midlands and East Midlands.
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>In Chester your regional news programmes should come from Granada and BBC North West. Crewe in Cheshire is an overlap between Central West and Granada.
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>I HATE OVERLAPS!

Look, I'm no engineer or anything, but surely it is impossible *not* to have overlaps. It must be physically impossible to construct a transmitter that stops just outside Crewe while another stops just inside. When I was a kid we got Thames and Southern and it just meant the occasional bit of extra telly.

I live in Henley-on-Thames and on my roof I have an 18 foot pole with a 75 element aerial on top of it which is used to recieve the oxford signal. but whenever there is at least a moderate amount of high pressure i can recieve average quality broadcasts from Belmont! and before the oxford channel started (UHF 47) i could get yorkshire tv on that channel with good results.
i can also get: central west, central south, meridian north, meridian south and london. but not Anglia.
so my point is can anyone else get really far off broadcasts?

>I live in Henley-on-Thames and on my roof I have an 18 foot pole with a 75 element aerial on top of it which is used to recieve the oxford signal. but whenever there is at least a moderate amount of high pressure i can recieve average quality broadcasts from Belmont! and before the oxford channel started (UHF 47) i could get yorkshire tv on that channel with good results.
>i can also get: central west, central south, meridian north, meridian south and london. but not Anglia.
>so my point is can anyone else get really far off broadcasts?

sorry about that. I meant to say that before the oxford channel started i could get yorkshire tv from emley moore.

>Look, I'm no engineer or anything, but surely it is impossible *not* to have overlaps. It must be physically impossible to construct a transmitter that stops just outside Crewe while another stops just inside. When I was a kid we got Thames and Southern and it just meant the occasional bit of extra telly.
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Oh those were the days! Now most ITV stations all show the same stuff apart from regional news and a few bits and pieces. TVS could always be relied upon for a decent alternative to Thames' dreary/depressing output for London.

Still doesn't explain why in North Yorkshire the IBA decided to make an overlap covering some 2500 square miles. Asking for trouble, that...

>Still doesn't explain why in North Yorkshire the IBA decided to make an overlap covering some 2500 square miles. Asking for trouble, that...

Cause if Bilsdale was not allocated to the North-East it would have deprived Tyne Tees of a considerable audience, including the area around Teesside, and considering Tees is part of the station's name, it seemed a sensible thing to do...in my opinion :o)

>>Still doesn't explain why in North Yorkshire the IBA decided to make an overlap covering some 2500 square miles. Asking for trouble, that...
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>Cause if Bilsdale was not allocated to the North-East it would have deprived Tyne Tees of a considerable audience, including the area around Teesside, and considering Tees is part of the station's name, it seemed a sensible thing to do...in my opinion :o)
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Oh I'm aware of that, it's just that with the black-and-white transmitters North Yorkshire was nicely divided down the middle between TT and Yorkshire (or Granada/ABC as was). The colour allocation, whilst better than the original idea (giving Bilsdale to YTV, effectively giving them control of as far north as Gateshead in some cases), did mean that Tyne Tees and Yorkshire were damned to fighting over the area, or worse, merging.

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>Oh I'm aware of that, it's just that with the black-and-white transmitters North Yorkshire was nicely divided down the middle between TT and Yorkshire (or Granada/ABC as was). The colour allocation, whilst better than the original idea (giving Bilsdale to YTV, effectively giving them control of as far north as Gateshead in some cases), did mean that Tyne Tees and Yorkshire were damned to fighting over the area, or worse, merging.

Interesting debate Jase, I think merging, as they did with Trident TV in the early 70s, and then like after a forced seperation, got married again in 92. Can't live together, can't live apart!

>Interesting debate Jase, I think merging, as they did with Trident TV in the early 70s, and then like after a forced seperation, got married again in 92. Can't live together, can't live apart!
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You'll note there are three prongs to a trident, but only two in Trident Television. The original idea was to include Anglia too, since the Belmont transmitter was originally allocated to it. But Yorks took it on licence.

Overlaps: Isle of Man (at various times in various weather conditions): Border, Granada, HTV Wales, Ulster, Central, London, Yorkshire, Tyne Tees, Anglia, RTE1, Network 2 and a Dutch station. Plus BBC equivalents. One indoor aerial, no booster.

WHY CAN CARLTON CENTRAL (I PRESUME IT'S THE WEST REGION) AND ANGLIA BE SEEN ON THE ISLE OF MAN?

>WHY CAN CARLTON CENTRAL (I PRESUME IT'S THE WEST REGION) AND ANGLIA BE SEEN ON THE ISLE OF MAN?
Central east and west, actually.
It happens only in the right weather conditions. High pressure. Or very high pressure.
It also helps living on a big hill.

Yes I live on the top of a hill, and before On-Digital came along I could receive TT, YTV, Anglia, HTV, Granada, Central and once or twice Thames/LWT and TVS. This was again with an un-boosted indoor aerial. Sometimes you find those horizontal lines on an analogue signal, where another signal is breaking through underneath, I found these by accident when I was retuning my TV. Sad act that I am, the next time it happened, there I was again scouring the bandwidth looking for remote signals. Really must get out more ;)

Really must get out more ;)

I ought to join you

PHEW!
FOR A MOMENT I THOUGHT YOU MEANT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GET CENTRAL, ANGLIA, YORKSHIRE ETC ON THE ISLE OF MAN!!!!

>>>Still doesn't explain why in North Yorkshire the IBA decided to make an overlap covering some 2500 square miles. Asking for trouble, that...
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>>The IBA made it even worse in the late 80s when they ruled that YTV should be carried on Billsdale relay stations in the north of the county and south Teesside, against Tyne Tees veerment protests. YTV argued that this was only right to cover all of Yorkshire.

>You'll note there are three prongs to a trident, but only two in Trident Television. The original idea was to include Anglia too, since the Belmont transmitter was originally allocated to it. But Yorks took it on licence.
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When the IBA blocked Anglia joining Trident, they should really have changed the name to Pitchfork Television.