>Remember the first S4C logo?
>It was waleS4Cymru. Clever, huh?

All I can say is SuperTed.

This becomes rather a problem in conversations, to be fair.

But do you remember that awful grey background with the three abstract shapes in?

One being an orange zig-zag thing, another being a green circle (?) and well the third one just is totally baffling me what it was. But they used to whizz around the screen and make up the S4C logo. ie very naff!!!!!

Is that the one that had a very similar jingle as Channel 4?

>But do you remember that awful grey background with the three abstract shapes in?
>
>One being an orange zig-zag thing, another being a green circle (?) and well the third one just is totally baffling me what it was. But they used to whizz around the screen and make up the S4C logo. ie very naff!!!!!

Forgot all about that. Yes, it was dreadful, wasn't it? Very contrived. Very we're trying to be trendy and it's the eighties.

The jingle went somethng like:-

Der der deeer duuuur
De de deeeer

The last time I saw the S4C logo, it was a sort of floaty Welsh Dragon. White background I think.

S4C is utter shite though.

>S4C is utter shite though.

I can't understand a lot of what's said. Do they mumble all the time?

>
>>S4C is utter shite though.
>
>I can't understand a lot of what's said. Do they mumble all the time?

Yeah, apparently the pronounce Wales as 'Comeree' or something!

I lived in Wales for 10 years.

How I grew to hate S4C with a passion.

Pobl y Cwm, indeed.

Y Byd yr Bedwar, I ask you.

>Remember the first S4C logo?
>It was waleS4Cymru. Clever, huh?
>
I remember the launch reported by ITN the day before C4 launched. They showed a rather groovy clock with the tag WALES4CYMRU Sianel Pedwar Cymru.

Worst thing about S4C was that, because of its rule for showing Welsh language programmes in prime-time (7-10pm), C4 programmes appeared in the oddest of places. "The Tube"'s first series, for example was shown as a 60-minute edit on Saturday afternoons. The first (and by far the best) series of "The Last Resort" was never shown on S4C, nor was "Friday Night Live", and as for most great films on C4 - it's an exaggeration to say that I only remember "Caddyshack" and "She'll Be Wearing Pink Pyjamas" being screened during the 1980s, but not by much...

Indeed.

I notice that Frasier is shown at midnight on Wednesdays now.

Idiots.

S4C's attitude to any imports apart from Friends and South Park is shocking. Don't think King Of The Hill has ever been shown in a pre-midnight slot. Frasier's been messed around since late 1995 (mid-series 2) when they switched it from 9.30 on Mondays to 11.45ish (often much later).

> Don't think King Of The Hill has ever been shown in a pre-midnight slot. Frasier's been messed around since late 1995 (mid-series 2) when they switched it from 9.30 on Mondays to 11.45ish (often much later).

Perhaps some name changes are in order - King yr Hill?
Frasier - Frasyr? Pobol y Seattle?

S4C are now showing the 'live' Big Brother voting show on Fridays at 8:30pm on Channel at the later time of 9:30pm when all the phone lines are closed!!!!
Surely they can more some of the welsh crap for REAL television????

You'd think so, but apparently not.

They put all that shite on, but it gets around or less than 200,000 viewers.

Frasyr
Nyles
Myrtyn
Dyphny
Ryz
Eddiy
Bylldyg

>S4C are now showing the 'live' Big Brother voting show on Fridays at 8:30pm on Channel at the later time of 9:30pm when all the phone lines are closed!!!!
>Surely they can more some of the welsh crap for REAL television????

Oh no! My life is over. I'm going on holiday there in four weeks' time.

Digital viewers in Wales get C4 and an all Welsh S4C I believe. The technology is there now to have a sensible solution.

That's all very well, but will my holiday cottage in Snowdonia be so equipped. I doubt it.

>That's all very well, but will my holiday cottage in Snowdonia be so equipped. I doubt it.

You could get an OnD box. Maybe a bit of overkill though.

Or just don't go!

Perfect solution for an S4C-hating world.

Or stop watching Big Brother - you'll feel a lot better about yourself.

Or just don't watch S4C.

Watch HTV instead!

But I've been looking forward to seeing Ffalabalam again for months now.

I thought that had been axed?

The viewers dropped below the acceptable 500 threshold.

>I thought that had been axed?
>
>The viewers dropped below the acceptable 500 threshold.

Say it ain't so!

I'm sorry to have had to break it to you like this.

You can reach the MD of S4C at:

Mr Gwilym Llallin
S4C HQ
Daffodil Lane
Welshcake Town
Leek
C1R2 A3P

Is that the Leek in Sheepshaggingshire?

Yes, you know it then!

Take a left when you get to the shop to reach the S4C barn.

You mean they have got electricity now to 'transmit' programmes?

or not as the case has been lately...
Programmes just seems to go to black for minutes on end (no stills or voice!)
What a complete shambles it was last week when they had live cricket and had to adjust their schedule to accomodate the increse in Big Brother programming!
If was worth watching just to try and guess what was actually coming next...? as obviously S4C didn't have a clue!!

Get yourselves together at S4C - you are supposed to be a professional broadcaster!!!

Even some piddly cable channels have better presentation than you.

I must stop now as i could go on for a very long time... but that would make an even more boring message..zzzzz

I put up with it for ten years. Ten years of that unprofessional, pointless and, oh yes, Welsh, television station.

I never want to see it again.

John!, John!, John! I thought we'd been through all this. All that money for counselling. All those sleepless nights. (I admit now that suggesting you count sheep was a tad thoughtless).
You've had those tears. Your ducts should be dry.
Just say to yourself: No more Sianel Pedwar Cymru, No more Newyddion. No more Ffalabalam. No more Bedwar a Pedwar. No more Sgorio. No more Pobol y Cwm. No more Heno.

You're clean now. It's all Jon Snow and Zeinab Badawi. It's Frasier at a sensible time. It's Brookside with an omnibus. It's the end of pointless snwker simulcasts with BBC2 (except with Welsh commentary).

Incidentally, what took you to Wales in the first place? Was it the short shorts, the grapples, the scrums, bathtime fun and the hookers?
Just a theory . . .

I was 7 when my family decided to move to Wales, and the only thing on my mind was Doctor Who and lollipops.

The sweet sort of lollipops that you buy in shops, I mean.

Even though it is a bit of a dreadful place to live in, it hasn't done me any harm!

BAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJ!!!

I live near Cardiff and I would like to say that I have received Channel 4 AND S4C ever since they started, so i'm OK.

Also, is any one else in Wales sick of the way BBC Wales move programmes like 'One Foot In The Grave' to a later time so that they can show crappy shows like 'Week In Week Out'?

>Also, is any one else in Wales sick of the way BBC Wales move programmes like 'One Foot In The Grave' to a later time so that they can show crappy shows like 'Week In Week Out'?

Haven't lived there since early 1997, but I sympathise completely. Mind you, at least they show things later these days - better late than never (which *used* to be their policy, especially when they had to show Welsh language programmes as well, before S4C's creation).

Christ yeah.

Week In Week Out. Is Vincent 'Citizen' Kane still doing that?

And how's Roy Noble?

>
>And how's Roy Noble?

Ah, the frontman of the really very dull indeed "See You Sunday" (for viewers outside Wales, imagine a collision of "This Morning" and "The Heaven & Earth Show"). My mum informs me that BBC Wales continues to attempt to market him as a sort of Welsh Wogan - that's certainly his radio persona, anyway.

Whatever, we'd best get off this, before I start mentioning "The Chris Stuart Cha-Cha-Chat Show" (BBC1 Wales, mid-80s, early evenings, oh you spoilt us in those days)

'And now on BBC Wales on One...instead of something good...something about farmers'

>And how's Roy Noble?

He presents a show called 'Heno' (I think thats Welsh for 'this evening') on S4C.

Oh, Heno is still going then? Good old Roy. He's like everyone's favourite uncle.

But with a beard and universally hated.

But have you all seen the stunning birds they have got co-presenting Heno? WOW :D

Or are you all too busy having orgasms over the graphics???

Oh, avid tv viewer, you've not really got the measure of John! have you.
Or me come to that.

RB is absolutely right.

Do your research in future, Avid!

I never followed the old thread "Is anyone in this forum straight?" right to the end, but I guessed the answer was pretty much a "no"!!!!!!

kewl!

TV-watching pillow-munchers of the world unite!

Interesting - a link between the gay community of the UK and regional TV. Who'dathunkit? There's a sociology research paper in this...

Never mind the gay stereotyping of Gimme Gimme Gimme - what about a sitcom featuring a gay man obsessed with TV idents and broadcast overlaps?

>Never mind the gay stereotyping of Gimme Gimme Gimme - what about a sitcom featuring a gay man obsessed with TV idents and broadcast overlaps?

Maybe I should just buy a webcam

Oooh, can I feature?

I'll come dressed as a Cyberman if you like.

Just don't do it too often, or you'll rust

>Just don't do it too often, or you'll rust

Arrrgghh - Stop!

Don't worry: I'll take off the costume for any extra activities, and perhaps just play with the helmet.

(Apologies)

And I thought you *had* to keep the suit on to get ready for extra activities

It's optional...depends how hot and sweaty you like it.

And things can get a bit cramped.

>And things can get a bit cramped.

Stop boasting, big boy

Oooh, I say.

This thread just gets bigger and better!

<adjusts self>

You're telling me!

<wipes forehead with a non-scented Wet One>

You lock the door, I'll shut the curtains.

I'll just pop to the outside bin with my pile of Wet Ones first

Can you just pop to the shop for a bag of crisps while you're out there?

I won't get cheese flavour. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing, you know.

Join us for more laughs next week on Gay Ident Love Webcam special.

Every year thousands of men do webcam shows and love never enters into it.

Oh no, that's fishing.

Salt and Vinegar please, RB.

Oi, Al! If you're up for a threesome at least have the courtesy of knocking first.

John! � S n V is fine � and we can have some Monster Munch later too.

Yep, I'm always up for a Monster Munch.

Is this turning into some sort of group session then? How many more are going to turn up? I was hoping me and you could have a bit of 1-2-1 time, RB.

Well they say more the merrier. I'd better get a six-pack and a couple of bags of Hula Hoops to make sure.
But if we leave it too long, I'm sure we'd get the unmistakable whiff of jealous lesbian. That Suiii'll get her claws back into you, bringing you down and ruining your life . . . AGAIN!
If I'm gone for some time when I get the crisps over the weekend, don't worry. I'll be back. Got to get my play room ready.

I spent 6 weeks in bed with Suiii. She's had her fair share of John! action.

This sounds interesting - but I'm rather concerned about what I've started here.

Can I just put an order in for some Cheese Flavour Snaps and some Ruffled Pringles and say that I'm perfectly happy to turn up for this gay crisp-eating orgy.

Excellent.

You're more than welcome, Ben. My choice of Pringle is Sour Cream and Chive, but I fear RB won't allow them as they're generally still in the 'cheese' area.

I'm back and I read your minds. I got Pringles.
After all, they say: "Once you pop you can't stop!"
Oh, and I got cherry flavour.
I'm sure there's a joke in there about cherries and popping, but I'm darned if I can find it.

Hmm, it's a tough one that. Also, I didn't know they did cherry flavour Pringles! They sound delicious!

Open wide and I'll pop one in.

Oh, and I'll give you a Pringle too.

Oooooh, this place is starting to sound like the rehearsal room for 'Carry On Benders'.

Or A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the (SOTCAA) Forum?

Anyway, are you up for a game of leapfrog?

Jump on!

You'll have to bend lower than that.

But I'm so tall that even when I'm bent right down I still tower.

Oh you all disgust me!!!!!

Can I join in?

Hop on Ben!

RB can go round the front!

I'll jump over John! to get there.

<jumps>

Oh heck, I'm stuck!

What a sticky situation!

Ben, Ben! You'll have to pull me off.

Hmmm...or we could make the most of it?

I'd been here so long, I thought you might be getting the hump.

Ben can always pull me off later.

Indeed he can.

There are other things to do while you're on my back.

Do you mean for me, you or Ben?

Just don't you dare go over to that trampoline over there, John!

Meanwhile, have you taken a vow of silence, Ben?

I think his mouth's full.

Actually, that wasn't Ben at all. It was me. I'd fed him a great line and there was a great gag to be had.

And there was a pretty good joke too.

Stop that bouncing, John!

Can't...help it...love of bouncing increasing...pleasure rising.

Is this a private orgy or can anyone join in?

Look, Jase, if you can help to just get John! to stop bouncing, I'll agree to anything. ANYTHING!!!!

<sniff>

I thought you liked it on my back.

Looks like I'm on my own for the time being.

Still...I know how to have fun on my own.

Happen a lot does it John!? (that doesn't look right)

Well, depends on whether I can be bothered to go out and get sex.

Normally I can't.

Sounds fair enough to me. Yes.

WOW! I'm really into this now.
Convention says when you're in a hole, stop digging.
I've never been one for convention.
I'm keeping digging. Keep bouncing, John!
Give Skippy a run for his money.

PS I couldn't get it up yesterday. The Forum, I mean.

Hurray!

Who'd have thought a thread about S4C would turn into such a delight?

These ident boys really know how to have a good time on the quiet don't they? How they must laugh when cynical wankers say to them 'bet you can't get a girlfriend.'

What's so cynical about wanking?

Nothing.

I love it.

No vow of silence. Just been offline - I find that the world is far more attractive when you're getting some!

The "bet he has his mouth full" comment was therefore not wide of the mark.

Anywho - back to S4C - why can they not get C4 to give them a tape of the shows they repeat - rather than bodging it by sticking their own bumpers and trailers into the broadcast feed. When I watched Ally McBeal a few months ago I saw 2 Channel 4 bumpers which then had the S4C one tacked on as well - and after the programme, 5 seconds of C4-branded advert fot something about the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, before Sianel Pedwar Cymru butted in with their own promo - SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unprofessional!

PS - Anytime you guys!

Anytime, eh? Excellent.

And where did you get it this weekend, Ben?

It wouldn't be too bad if the four in S'4'C was THE channel four logo and whenever the real channel four is inadvetantly put out (happens most break!) it wouldn't look too out of place!!?
Its the same idea as with the branding of [itv] promotions which oblitarate the itv in the corner with their local logos....this seems to work and no-one gives too hoots then if they do occassionally see an [itv]
Agree or disagree??

Yeah, Chris whatever.

But what do YOU think about wanking?

Good to see you back, Ben, with that smile. But here's a tip. Give your mouth a wipe.

Everyone loves wanking, it's a divine way to spend an afternoon.

Can I wipe Ben's mouth?

Please?

Luckily, I still have three drawers full of Wet Ones.

I was thinking more along the lines of wiping Ben's mouth with a part of my body.

Have you considered all the hygiene implications of doing that?

And how will you manage to bend down with me on your back?

I can try.

I can try very, very hard.

And are you enjoying it on there?

I'm having a whale of a time (a hump-back, seeing you asked).

I hope your ears aren't too sore. I've been a-gripping on to them for a week now.

By the way, we need to contact Norris McWhirter to see if this is a record, unless he's dead.

My ears are loving it.

So is the rest of me, just can't get enough.

I'm becoming a tad concerned by the amount of wax I'm getting on my fingers.

Meanwhile, keep shaking your tush, baby.

I'm becoming a tad concerned by the amount of wax I'm getting on my fingers.

Meanwhile, keep shaking your tush, baby.

It's shaking, it's shaking.

Pound me harder!

I think gay.com is probably a more appropriate place to hold this thread now (UK&Ireland floor - BlondBoyBen since you ask!)

Either way - no - I think S4C should keep it's identity distinct from C4 (especially now that both are going to be broadcast in Wales) Using the Four logo as part of the S4C one would just be as a substitute for having some production values.

Has anyone here seen S4C~Digidol or S4C~2 to know how they manage to put a channel together without the C4 problem? They may well do OK with just their own stuff to worry about.

Hey, Ben's blonde.

I'm so glad he joined us!

I've been picturing you as bald, John!

Me? Oh, I have been a peroxide bombshell. Now I'm dark and mysterious.

<sniff>

Bald? I'm only 20.

Mixture of dark brown and peroxide.

And that's just my bush.

I meant a Number One. Or maybe a Number Minus One (that's when they scrape into your scalp and make you bleed, although you have to pay more for that. But it's on special offer).

Love to see your bush. But I'm a shrub man myself.

My bush is all yours.

And my hair is short, with a spikey fringe.

Just to be different.

Wow! You are really taking gay fashion on apace.
Next, you'll be telling me you've got an Adidas top, are thinking about having a tattoo all around your left bicep and have the Steps album.

It's great to be different, isn't it?

Adidas Top: No.

Tattoo: Never.

Steps Album: I smashed it with a small hammer.

But I bet you're an H man, not a Lee man

Actually, if I had to shag either, it'd be Lee without question. H annoys me.

But I'd rather just get close to Paul Nicholls.

Mine would be:
1: Lee
2. Paul Nicholls
3. H

However, I'm prepared even to accept Jamie Theakston. Indeed, a picture of him gazes upon me as it is stuck to my computer screen.
What an admission!

Jamie Theakston apparently has a small cock, according to his last girlfriend. I wonder how much of what was said were malicious lies?

Yes, that news did rather spoil my more moist moments

But I have to remember that he is a heterosexual and therefore:

1. Is almost certainly an Eric Clapton fan

2. Will not be up for an award for personal hygiene

3. Would make crap breakfasts anyway

Speaking for the Apologetic Union of Liberal Heterosexuals I am in a position to deny two of these appalling slurs.







I do make crap breakfasts though.

And still no mention of S4C~Digidol

OK then - gay clich� time

Given that we all have a mobile phone and have done for some time - naturally a 3210 with various brightly coloured facias - doesn't the predictive text input annoy you?

Jamie Theakston is a total tosser.
I supposedly look like a younger H so I think I may be safe from your molestations. Personally I'll take Jon from S Club 7 any day!

The dark haired one from S Club 7 is better, I reckon.

And Paul Nicholls still beats them all.

Paul Nicholas?
The dark-haired one?
Lee?
Jamie?
H?

Who needs 'em when you have me?

RB - sweetie - I'm sorry - I'm sure you are the most shaggable of us all - I forgot that's all!

Why, thank you, young Ben.

<blushes>

(whispers: I will settle your rentboy bill as soon as my next pay cheque arrives)

What a night!
After being stuck on John!'s back for a fortnight, he's managed to toss me off.
Now there's cyberjism everywhere, including Ben's blond hair.

After such a momentous occasion, John! and RB must obviously now get married.
But will it be John!B or RB! after the wedding?

Watch this space.

Hello?


Where is everyone?


Are you shocked into silence?

I'm off on my hols tomorrow to Dolgellau (Wales). I doubt there's a cyber cafe there.

Every time I see the S4C ident I'll being thinking of you and be getting a stiffy.

Well, actually, I get a stiffy when I see most idents, without any extra stimulus.

I'm off to university!

Enjoy your holiday, RB! We can set a date for the wedding soon.

See you around!

J
x

Well good luck to John! at uni - where are you going? I'm off to London on saturday

Back from Dolgellau and the whole world went weird.
No forum.
No Ben.
No John!

But how I enjoyed S4C